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Just read the numbers for the last quarter of 2007 for HD.
- Profits down 26.3%
- US sales down 14.2%
This may be the time tolook and negotiate a very favorable deal. With these numbers the buyer is in the drivers' seat. I'm pretty sure that HD will be coming out with factory rebates and incentives just like the big auto manufacturers. Good luck.
- Profits down 26.3%
- US sales down 14.2%
This may be the time tolook and negotiate a very favorable deal. With these numbers the buyer is in the drivers' seat. I'm pretty sure that HD will be coming out with factory rebates and incentives just like the big auto manufacturers. Good luck.
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From: Eugene Oregon
RE: HD Numbers Down
I hope the dealers start responding the the new economic pressures for the good of the company. I have been looking to replace my current ride with a touring model for the last year. I have the cash and am willing to let it go. I have shopped the touring bikes at 4 dealers within 200 miles and after the "your my best friend and let me welcome you into the family stage", I very kindly suggest that I feel uncomfortable paying more than msrp out the door. It's like I vanished from the earth (deer fixed in the headlights), no lets talk or call backs. They all say they cann't "eat" there prep., ect., ect,. WTF? I'm not giving up, but I needed to vent. Vent over.
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RE: HD Numbers Down
ORIGINAL: sagalong
I hope the dealers start responding the the new economic pressures for the good of the company. I have been looking to replace my current ride with a touring model for the last year. I have the cash and am willing to let it go. I have shopped the touring bikes at 4 dealers within 200 miles and after the "your my best friend and let me welcome you into the family stage", I very kindly suggest that I feel uncomfortable paying more than msrp out the door. It's like I vanished from the earth (deer fixed in the headlights), no lets talk or call backs. They all say they cann't "eat" there prep., ect., ect,. WTF? I'm not giving up, but I needed to vent. Vent over.
I hope the dealers start responding the the new economic pressures for the good of the company. I have been looking to replace my current ride with a touring model for the last year. I have the cash and am willing to let it go. I have shopped the touring bikes at 4 dealers within 200 miles and after the "your my best friend and let me welcome you into the family stage", I very kindly suggest that I feel uncomfortable paying more than msrp out the door. It's like I vanished from the earth (deer fixed in the headlights), no lets talk or call backs. They all say they cann't "eat" there prep., ect., ect,. WTF? I'm not giving up, but I needed to vent. Vent over.
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Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 507
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From: Arkansas
RE: HD Numbers Down
ORIGINAL: adlerx
What state are you in? This time of year I would think they'd be happy to move a bike at msrp. Keep looking!
ORIGINAL: sagalong
I hope the dealers start responding the the new economic pressures for the good of the company. I have been looking to replace my current ride with a touring model for the last year. I have the cash and am willing to let it go. I have shopped the touring bikes at 4 dealers within 200 miles and after the "your my best friend and let me welcome you into the family stage", I very kindly suggest that I feel uncomfortable paying more than msrp out the door. It's like I vanished from the earth (deer fixed in the headlights), no lets talk or call backs. They all say they cann't "eat" there prep., ect., ect,. WTF? I'm not giving up, but I needed to vent. Vent over.
I hope the dealers start responding the the new economic pressures for the good of the company. I have been looking to replace my current ride with a touring model for the last year. I have the cash and am willing to let it go. I have shopped the touring bikes at 4 dealers within 200 miles and after the "your my best friend and let me welcome you into the family stage", I very kindly suggest that I feel uncomfortable paying more than msrp out the door. It's like I vanished from the earth (deer fixed in the headlights), no lets talk or call backs. They all say they cann't "eat" there prep., ect., ect,. WTF? I'm not giving up, but I needed to vent. Vent over.
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RE: HD Numbers Down
ORIGINAL: sagalong
I hope the dealers start responding the the new economic pressures for the good of the company. I have been looking to replace my current ride with a touring model for the last year. I have the cash and am willing to let it go. I have shopped the touring bikes at 4 dealers within 200 miles and after the "your my best friend and let me welcome you into the family stage", I very kindly suggest that I feel uncomfortable paying more than msrp out the door. It's like I vanished from the earth (deer fixed in the headlights), no lets talk or call backs. They all say they cann't "eat" there prep., ect., ect,. WTF? I'm not giving up, but I needed to vent. Vent over.
I hope the dealers start responding the the new economic pressures for the good of the company. I have been looking to replace my current ride with a touring model for the last year. I have the cash and am willing to let it go. I have shopped the touring bikes at 4 dealers within 200 miles and after the "your my best friend and let me welcome you into the family stage", I very kindly suggest that I feel uncomfortable paying more than msrp out the door. It's like I vanished from the earth (deer fixed in the headlights), no lets talk or call backs. They all say they cann't "eat" there prep., ect., ect,. WTF? I'm not giving up, but I needed to vent. Vent over.
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RE: HD Numbers Down
It's a buyers market! I'd hold off until spring. I have a feeling the Motor Company will offer incentives to help dealers move bikes. Many still have '07 models.
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ORIGINAL: Geoff
It's a buyers market! I'd hold off until spring. I have a feeling the Motor Company will offer incentives to help dealers move bikes. Many still have '07 models.
It's a buyers market! I'd hold off until spring. I have a feeling the Motor Company will offer incentives to help dealers move bikes. Many still have '07 models.
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Joined: Jul 2007
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From: Ohio
RE: HD Numbers Down
Well I just ordered, and I have to say, I was shocked at the
low key effort at the dealers I went to. The one nearest me.
I stopped in last year. Introduced my self, at that time no
08s were available. I went back in Dec, gave the salesman
what I wanted. I left my name address and phone so he
knew I was a serious buyer. LOL never got a price, so I
called and emailed him. Told him he did not have to put
it in writing, just tell me and we will make a deal. I still have
not heard from him. Dealer 2 same thing. They were better after
3 1/2 weeks someone called me. Third dealer I called, was on
the ball. Got back to me the next day, with what was close
to what I wanted, and a rough price. I went in the next day
and ordered. I was not looking for the el cheapo cheapest price.
I wanted a fair price from a dealer with a good rep. I got it.
I have always worked in construction, home improvement field.
If you give your name to one of those salesman or a realtor. You will
need a stick to beat them off, you won't have to call them 2 or 3 times.
I think some of the sales people are still in the old days, of more
customers than bikes to sell. If that is the case they are in for a
rude awakening.
My friend just bought a new Yamaha. I looked at Stratoliners at
2 dealers. There was a big difference. The Yamaha dealers were both
agressive and sales oriented. I don't know about HD dealers in other areas.
But if they are anything like the ones in my area. That could be part of
the problem
low key effort at the dealers I went to. The one nearest me.
I stopped in last year. Introduced my self, at that time no
08s were available. I went back in Dec, gave the salesman
what I wanted. I left my name address and phone so he
knew I was a serious buyer. LOL never got a price, so I
called and emailed him. Told him he did not have to put
it in writing, just tell me and we will make a deal. I still have
not heard from him. Dealer 2 same thing. They were better after
3 1/2 weeks someone called me. Third dealer I called, was on
the ball. Got back to me the next day, with what was close
to what I wanted, and a rough price. I went in the next day
and ordered. I was not looking for the el cheapo cheapest price.
I wanted a fair price from a dealer with a good rep. I got it.
I have always worked in construction, home improvement field.
If you give your name to one of those salesman or a realtor. You will
need a stick to beat them off, you won't have to call them 2 or 3 times.
I think some of the sales people are still in the old days, of more
customers than bikes to sell. If that is the case they are in for a
rude awakening.
My friend just bought a new Yamaha. I looked at Stratoliners at
2 dealers. There was a big difference. The Yamaha dealers were both
agressive and sales oriented. I don't know about HD dealers in other areas.
But if they are anything like the ones in my area. That could be part of
the problem