SERT vs Power Commander
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RE: SERT vs Power Commander
ORIGINAL: GMONEY220
I was fortunate HD let me return my SERT,i told them that it wasn't user freindly like the parts person boasted,and that i wasn't going to pay them for a tune every time i change an engine or exhaust item on my bike!!I installed the PCIII myself in about 20 mins and have tweaked a few maps by myself.I'll pay for one good tune when i cam up,and i'll ask to get a peak HP/TQ map and a fuel econo map so i can switch up as needed.USB to my laptop and presto-change-o!!!!
ORIGINAL: SloChicken
IMO the SERT is more tunable, but my biggest issue with it is,
YOU CAN"T DO IT YOURSELF!!!
I hate that s..t.
PC3 I will take 95% tuned and the satisfaction of $500 in beer and good times - and that is only for each tune (which you will need with each new mod)
IMO the SERT is more tunable, but my biggest issue with it is,
YOU CAN"T DO IT YOURSELF!!!
I hate that s..t.
PC3 I will take 95% tuned and the satisfaction of $500 in beer and good times - and that is only for each tune (which you will need with each new mod)
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RE: SERT vs Power Commander
I installed V & H Big Shot True Duals on my 06 Ultra. I was going to use the Fuel-Pak, but I heard too many negatives so I went with SERT. So glad I did. The sound and performence are outstanding. I recommend SERT to everyone I talk to.
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From: Somerset, WI
RE: SERT vs Power Commander
Check around your area for a good tuner and find out how much they charge, then hit Ebay for prices between the two. for me I got my SERT for $150 on this site and dyno was $140 (2 hrs labor). I'm glad I went with the SERT after hearing so many complaining about the drop in gas milage with the PCIII.
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RE: SERT vs Power Commander
For the modifications that you have made, I would recommend the Power Commander, this unit will allow you to adjust the fuel table for each cylinder, plus adjust the timing on each cylinder and that is all you need. Plus, Dynojet supplies you with maps ready to go for just about every pipe out there. Some maps are basic, some are advanced. Basic maps put the two fuel tables together, so each cylinder is the same. Personally, I would check the dynojet web site, see what maps are available for your bike, and if there is an advanced map for the pipes are talking about then I would go with the PC and use that map, end of story.
The SERT is much more complicated and was specifically designed for major engine modifications and is used by people that demand the most of their bike, like drag racing. Without some type of system to read your AFR, you will have a hell of a time using a SERT to make any adjustments, the fact that they make youbuy a SERT just to put a map in the ECM is crazy. In my opinion, they have done this just so they can screw the customer.They should be able to put a basic map for widely used exhaust systems in the bike for about $50 and that is just for the 30 minutes of labor that it would take to push the bike in, take the seat or side panel off, plug it in, flash the ECM and take it for a test ride. If they put the pipes and Air Cleaner on for you, they should just do this for free, in my opinion.
The SERT is much more complicated and was specifically designed for major engine modifications and is used by people that demand the most of their bike, like drag racing. Without some type of system to read your AFR, you will have a hell of a time using a SERT to make any adjustments, the fact that they make youbuy a SERT just to put a map in the ECM is crazy. In my opinion, they have done this just so they can screw the customer.They should be able to put a basic map for widely used exhaust systems in the bike for about $50 and that is just for the 30 minutes of labor that it would take to push the bike in, take the seat or side panel off, plug it in, flash the ECM and take it for a test ride. If they put the pipes and Air Cleaner on for you, they should just do this for free, in my opinion.
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RE: SERT vs Power Commander
ORIGINAL: delbert
I installed Rinehart True Dual to my FLHRSIS. Which should I use, Power Commander or the SERT?
I installed Rinehart True Dual to my FLHRSIS. Which should I use, Power Commander or the SERT?
Regarding the comment about PCIII's and gas mileage, the mileage is solely dependent on the tuning whether you own a PCIII or SERT. If you tune for cooling in the cruise range your mileage will suffer, and for me there's a compromise between the two. My mileage is about as good as I think this engine is capable of, frankly, and will gladly compare it to anyone with SERT installed. It varies from about 40mpg in city with numerous cold starts to 50mpg at moderate speeds on the backroads.
Fuel Moto tunes for about 13.5:1 A/F in the cruise range, and about 13.0:1 at higher TP's. I like mine at 14.0-14.5:1 in the cruise range, which improves mileage greatly. Adding a cooler and using synthetic oil keeps peak oil temps under control, even in summer traffic.
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