IDS PROBLEM ?
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From: Pleasant Hill, CA
Here's my IDS Story (problem)
I installed the IDS kit on my '07 Street Glide about a month ago.It was not an easy job; but I got it done in one day, anyway! I thought it might help eliminate the noise that the compensator sprocket has been making since day one ..... but it did not do that job. Shifting is nicer; especially from neutral into 1st gear.
Here's my (significant) problem: I've had the axle nut work loose twice now in the last 1500 miles! The first time, I chalked it up to my neglect (maybe??) in the tightening of the nut on the right side of the axle. The belt was so loose that it started making lots of noises. So I retightened it to the factory specs with a torque wrench. Set the belt slack to about 1/4 inch or so.
Today, on the way back from a 450 mile trip down the coat highway and back; my wife kept telling me she was hearing noises from the rear tire area that didn't sound right to her. (??) Within a few miles farther down the road, I could hear and feel a really bad vibration on acceleration and deceleration both.
When we pulled over to check it out; the clunking and grinding noise I heard when I let out the clutch made me think the whole tranny had taken a dump!!
Turns out that the axle nut was very loose again, and with the use of the handy-dandy factory supplied tool kit, we adjusted the belt and tightened the axle as best we could. We made the last 50 miles home by taking it easy, but the damn thing is pretty loose again; so I'm looking for any input from you all to let me know if there is a better self-locking axle nut, or some other way to make sure this thing doesn't keep happening every other week.
Hope someone can help.
Thanks for listening.
redrazor
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Dont know what to tell you on the axle nut working loose. You gotta torque it to factory specs. I have had the IDS on my ride for about 25k miles now with no issues, and if it was going to fail, it surely would have long ago with the tq and hp my engine makes.
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No problems here so far. As for the nut that keeps coming loose,I would pull the IDS and look at the brg.Your seating flange could be worn or broken as some owners had.The Jesus clip doesnt do much at stopping axle nut from backing off slightly.
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IDS problem update
I should have posted this a while ago, but here it is:
I installed the IDS kit improperly (no directions were included)! I forgot to put the spacer in between the IDS sprocket bearing and the left side wheel bearing.
Sooo ....... there was a bunch of "side pressure" on the sprocket bearing, instead of the pressure/load being only on the "race" part of the bearing that slides over the axle.
I did also find out something quite interesting while replacing the (destroyed) sprocket bearing, and inserting the correct spacer to take up the space that was left empty on my first go-round! My '07 axle is a 1" axle, and an '08, and '09 axle is a 26mm axle!! That's .020" difference; and an '08 or '09 bearing/extended race unit won't go onto the axle no matter how hard you press,beat, or try to force it on. My '07 has to use the bearing that comes in the conversion kit only! ....... or you'd have to machine out .020" from the inside of the race on a later model bearing.
I did get it back together correctly, and the back wheel turns freely and smoothly and noiselessly now. I've put a couple of hundred miles on the bike since then, and I'm sure it is ok now.
I still have the !@&* rattling noise coming from the compensator sprocket on the crankshaft; but the dealership finally has agreed that they need to "re torque those pesky things" to get them to quiet down. I'll bring it in as soon as the lousy weather gets here, and hope it does the trick.
I'm still irritated by the constant hammering noise between 2500 and 3200 rpms; but have learned to live with it somewhat. I'm just glad it isn't a sticky lifter like I originally thought it was.
Thanks for listening, and be careful out there.
redrazor
I installed the IDS kit improperly (no directions were included)! I forgot to put the spacer in between the IDS sprocket bearing and the left side wheel bearing.
Sooo ....... there was a bunch of "side pressure" on the sprocket bearing, instead of the pressure/load being only on the "race" part of the bearing that slides over the axle.
I did also find out something quite interesting while replacing the (destroyed) sprocket bearing, and inserting the correct spacer to take up the space that was left empty on my first go-round! My '07 axle is a 1" axle, and an '08, and '09 axle is a 26mm axle!! That's .020" difference; and an '08 or '09 bearing/extended race unit won't go onto the axle no matter how hard you press,beat, or try to force it on. My '07 has to use the bearing that comes in the conversion kit only! ....... or you'd have to machine out .020" from the inside of the race on a later model bearing.
I did get it back together correctly, and the back wheel turns freely and smoothly and noiselessly now. I've put a couple of hundred miles on the bike since then, and I'm sure it is ok now.
I still have the !@&* rattling noise coming from the compensator sprocket on the crankshaft; but the dealership finally has agreed that they need to "re torque those pesky things" to get them to quiet down. I'll bring it in as soon as the lousy weather gets here, and hope it does the trick.
I'm still irritated by the constant hammering noise between 2500 and 3200 rpms; but have learned to live with it somewhat. I'm just glad it isn't a sticky lifter like I originally thought it was.
Thanks for listening, and be careful out there.
redrazor
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I would say there is at least 3 catagorys with the 07 tourers.those that never clattered,the ones that the IDS cured and the ones that the IDS didnt or at best lessed. First a good tune is a must for whatever setup youre running.Since the driveline noise sounds very similar to knock esp at the rpm you stated while rolling throttle,you could eliminate one possiblity with a good tune. The new SE comp setup may help those that still have the clatter,I cant say since the IDS cured mine. The kit shouldve come with instruction sheet?
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