To low-side or high-side?
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RE: To low-side or high-side?
WELL Partner left side...ON and OFF..Reasoning being i hang my parts on left side(hope i dont have to explain this)and its more comfortable lifting my RIGHT leg!!! Im sure at least some of you will understand!!... RW....
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RE: To low-side or high-side?
ORIGINAL: twincam47
I would ask RLAP (mr. paladino) if that is the way IPTM teaches their classes down in Florida.
And it isnt my technique...the partnership between H-D and NUCPS started over 20 years ago and is thepremier Police Motorcycle Training in the country.
NUCPS, IPTM and California POST are the industry standards in Police motorcycle training. Other departments or states might have their own but have modeled their training after one of these.
And again NOT EVERYmanual........
I am not going to argue with you......27 years of my past life and YES we were taught and did as instructed.....mounted/dismounted from the high side.....positioning the motor on traffic stops...dismounting to the right (high side) protecting your side arm side (if you were right handed) and using the bike for cover if the stuff went bad. Never would I dismount on the low side near the moving lane of traffic or allow a failed part to push me into the moving lane.
And finally do what makes you feel good...just dont tell me that low side is in every manual and that your police friendsknow nothing about it.
ORIGINAL: Shoe
Funny, youre the first one to ever say this. I have a few friends who are motorcops both in NJ and MS and they have never heard or have been taught your technique.
Like I said, every manual out there teaches to mount the bike from the left side (its the customary way and it keeps you from burning your leg on the exhaust).
Its funny to see how many poor riders there are out there (feet draggers, those who use front brakes exclusively). Being in the military, they require us to take quite a few courses on motorcycle safety and none of them ever taught mounting the bike from the right side. Even those taught by the highway patrol.
I learned to ride and was licensed in California which has to be one of the toughest riding tests to pass in the country (its not just go around the block and come back like alot of other states) and they also teach you to mount the bike from the left side.
I also believe that they mount the bikes from the left side in the RLAP videos and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure hes a cop
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On a final note, I've taken much more than just the basic rider course. I was just simply stating that this is basic common knowledge and most would know it if they cared to take a course or sign up for the Experience Rider Course, which I doevery couple of years.
Dave
ORIGINAL: twincam47
Not So..........mounting/dismountingfrom the high side keeps the bike from falling on your leg in case of a jiffy stand failure. It will also keeps you from being knocked into traffic if you're are on the right shoulder putting your rain gear on and the bike falls.
All Police Motormen are taught to mount/dismount from the high side for these and other reasons.
Northwestern University Center for Public Safety Police Motorcycle operator and instructor course manuals outline this.....these are 2 week and 3 week courses not just your average basic rider course.
And for the other post....motorcycles and horses are meant to be mounted on the left side....
a calf roper will mount and dismount his horse on the right side if he is right handed.
ORIGINAL: Shoe
The proper way to get on a bike is from the left side (kickstand side). This is taught in every basic rider course and instruction manual out there.
Dave
The proper way to get on a bike is from the left side (kickstand side). This is taught in every basic rider course and instruction manual out there.
Dave
All Police Motormen are taught to mount/dismount from the high side for these and other reasons.
Northwestern University Center for Public Safety Police Motorcycle operator and instructor course manuals outline this.....these are 2 week and 3 week courses not just your average basic rider course.
And for the other post....motorcycles and horses are meant to be mounted on the left side....
a calf roper will mount and dismount his horse on the right side if he is right handed.
Like I said, every manual out there teaches to mount the bike from the left side (its the customary way and it keeps you from burning your leg on the exhaust).
Its funny to see how many poor riders there are out there (feet draggers, those who use front brakes exclusively). Being in the military, they require us to take quite a few courses on motorcycle safety and none of them ever taught mounting the bike from the right side. Even those taught by the highway patrol.
I learned to ride and was licensed in California which has to be one of the toughest riding tests to pass in the country (its not just go around the block and come back like alot of other states) and they also teach you to mount the bike from the left side.
I also believe that they mount the bikes from the left side in the RLAP videos and, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure hes a cop
.On a final note, I've taken much more than just the basic rider course. I was just simply stating that this is basic common knowledge and most would know it if they cared to take a course or sign up for the Experience Rider Course, which I doevery couple of years.
Dave
And it isnt my technique...the partnership between H-D and NUCPS started over 20 years ago and is thepremier Police Motorcycle Training in the country.
NUCPS, IPTM and California POST are the industry standards in Police motorcycle training. Other departments or states might have their own but have modeled their training after one of these.
And again NOT EVERYmanual........
I am not going to argue with you......27 years of my past life and YES we were taught and did as instructed.....mounted/dismounted from the high side.....positioning the motor on traffic stops...dismounting to the right (high side) protecting your side arm side (if you were right handed) and using the bike for cover if the stuff went bad. Never would I dismount on the low side near the moving lane of traffic or allow a failed part to push me into the moving lane.
And finally do what makes you feel good...just dont tell me that low side is in every manual and that your police friendsknow nothing about it.
So yes I will tell you all those things. Its what I read and what I was taught. You mount/dismount
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RE: To low-side or high-side?
ORIGINAL: Shoe
The proper way to get on a bike is from the left side (kickstand side). This is taught in every basic rider course and instruction manual out there.
Dave
The proper way to get on a bike is from the left side (kickstand side). This is taught in every basic rider course and instruction manual out there.
Dave
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RE: To low-side or high-side?
ORIGINAL: OnTheFence
I am sorta thinkin that if a person needs official instructions on how to get on a bike, they should take up a new hobby.
ORIGINAL: Shoe
The proper way to get on a bike is from the left side (kickstand side). This is taught in every basic rider course and instruction manual out there.
Dave
The proper way to get on a bike is from the left side (kickstand side). This is taught in every basic rider course and instruction manual out there.
Dave
There is also alot of good info here: http://www.msgroup.org/
Sorry, not only am I a bike fanatic but I also love reading about techniques and safety so that I can try to be better than the standard rider.
Dave
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RE: To low-side or high-side?
I get on and off on the high side, it's much easier I found out, not too long after I bought my bike.
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RE: To low-side or high-side?
ORIGINAL: Shoe
Never took the course, did you?!?!?! Its the first thing they teach. Take the course, its worth the money. The DoD requires it (and since I'm in the military <have been for the last 10 years> I had to take it), thats how important they think the course is.
There is also alot of good info here: http://www.msgroup.org/
Sorry, not only am I a bike fanatic but I also love reading about techniques and safety so that I can try to be better than the standard rider.
Dave
Never took the course, did you?!?!?! Its the first thing they teach. Take the course, its worth the money. The DoD requires it (and since I'm in the military <have been for the last 10 years> I had to take it), thats how important they think the course is.
There is also alot of good info here: http://www.msgroup.org/
Sorry, not only am I a bike fanatic but I also love reading about techniques and safety so that I can try to be better than the standard rider.
Dave
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RE: To low-side or high-side?
Uhhh, thanks for the information. I thought it was a fairly simple question but didn't expect some of the harsh responses (onthefence: let it go. I was tired of dragging my boots across the seat).
Move on to a different topic.
Gart
Move on to a different topic.
Gart