DYNO Numbers for Baggers???
New EFI Cams, ie. SE254, 259, 263, & SE266E
I like the numbers with the Cyclerama 575's, anxious to try a set. The "New" series of SE cams that come in the Bolt-On kits are now all EFI friendly, and are listed above. From what I've seen so far, the 259E turns some STRONG numbers. For the 113" Kit they use the 266E cams, 24/58 in. and 69/17exh., with 262/266 Duration and .658 lift, Very BIG cams. Just curious what you're using for heads, did you use high flow injectors? I got 113hp/109tq with my 103 using Andrew's 55 cams w/ a Kury 58mm & Hi Flo's, and Sachs heads w/ CP flat-tops. It really rips for a 103, I think the intake made a huge difference. -Different subject, but does anyone know if the SE110 heads out of the "Bolt On" kits will fit a 103 w/ flat tops, or MUST one use their SE PN22137-08B Domed pistons to get the compression up (couldn't a person use .020 Cometics?). A friend has several 110 kits he wants to get rid of, and I can get a set of the heads cheap. THEY should wake up my trike (it has 103 flat tops now), I got a 58mm SE Throttle-Body in the deal too. Will it work w/ my Cruise control? Should be able to set it at warp 10 with the 110 heads, I just don't want to replace my pistons again and re-break it in. This would be a good chance to try the CycleRama 575's. Wes, if you read this post, pls comment on using them in this situation, It'd be better than my 204's! 
Hey TROOP, how's your 1.7 to 1 rocker motor working out? I put my rockers back in the box, and the trike Rips now! Go figure. -Scroll down to the next page and check out the flat torque curve I got on the 103 I built back in 2008. The cams are just Andrew's 55's, but the porting was excellent (John Sachs), and so was the Dyno tune. I think that's Key. 113/109, and it's a light bike too (flstsc). Needs a tire already.
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The "211 Story", An Amazing Comparison . . .
I got to thinking about your 211's and the Dyno results, then did some research. The 103 in my Springer Softail has the Andrews TW55 cams, which have almost IDENTICAL intake timing as a 211 (just 1 degree earlier, same duration, and only .042 difference in lift, .550 vs .508). They are RATED for a usable range of 2600 to 6200 RPM, I looked it up! The man that Designed the TW55's for Andrews, John Sachs, ALSO Ported my heads, so they are optimized to work together. Compare the torque vs. RPM on the attached Dyno, not that far off either. I got Sachs Heads, CP flat tops, a TTS Master-Tuner, Fat-Cat 2 into one exhaust, and a 57 mm Kury intake, Hi-Flows too, and a very expensive Dyno tune, & an expensive motor.
We gotta' know the secret about that motor of yours !
We gotta' know the secret about that motor of yours !
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not a bolt on... CNC Ported
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From: Athens, AL
I got to thinking about your 211's and the Dyno results, then did some research. The 103 in my Springer Softail has the Andrews TW55 cams, which have almost IDENTICAL intake timing as a 211 (just 1 degree earlier, same duration, and only .042 difference in lift, .550 vs .508). They are RATED for a usable range of 2600 to 6200 RPM, I looked it up! The man that Designed the TW55's for Andrews, John Sachs, ALSO Ported my heads, so they are optimized to work together. Compare the torque vs. RPM on the attached Dyno, not that far off either. I got Sachs Heads, CP flat tops, a TTS Master-Tuner, Fat-Cat 2 into one exhaust, and a 57 mm Kury intake, Hi-Flows too, and a very expensive Dyno tune, & an expensive motor.
We gotta' know the secret about that motor of yours !
We gotta' know the secret about that motor of yours !
Secret?
Well to be honest...He SAID my bike was a little more willing than your average bike. That's secret one. Secret two...This dealer builds race bikes! Secret three... He sent me home with 101/108 and called me BACK and said I think we can do better and came up 102/113...
Here is the first tune WITH Stage III vs. without the 103 Stage III kit:
Differences between your bike and mine... Mine is a 103A vs. your 103B. You can get more from a A engine vs. a B all things being equal. Did my SE Heavy Breather help? Maybe...I dunno.. I have no idea in the differences between a SERT and a TTS....
Thanks for the kind words tho!
What was your third cam choice big6x6?