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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 09:12 AM
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I'm gonna try the heavier oil in the stock shock and see how that goes. That is this weekends endeavor.
What will the heavier oil due ? Is it supposed to stiffen the ride?
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by stglide
What will the heavier oil due ? Is it supposed to stiffen the ride?
It is supposed to help the factory rear shocks ride better, a little firmer, but less big jolts. Here is the link to the thread that convinced me to try it out.



https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ml#post3971351
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by FastHarley
Best shock for actually riding the bike is Penske.
No doubt Penski is one of the best suspension makers out there, but what do you really want? For me the Progressive 440 is good enough for what I do. (cost/benefit analysis).

I have a BMW 1150RT with Wilbers custom built front/rear, and when I want handling, that is the bike I take. If I wanted better handling, I'd go back to sportbikes.

Two large for Harley suspension??? Please.
 
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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Pou
No doubt Penski is one of the best suspension makers out there, but what do you really want? For me the Progressive 440 is good enough for what I do. (cost/benefit analysis).

I have a BMW 1150RT with Wilbers custom built front/rear, and when I want handling, that is the bike I take. If I wanted better handling, I'd go back to sportbikes.

Two large for Harley suspension??? Please.
Two large for Harley suspension??? Please. What are you referring to?
Since you undoubtedly are a very seasoned biker and know lots about riding you would know that the comfort you receive riding a good shock in comparison to the 440's that you have is not worth the price? I guess that is in your eyes. The 440's are undoubtedly one of the worst riding shocks out there. If you had a chance to try others than you would know the difference. As far as Wilbers being a good shock, we will just leave it at that. They have never been in the same class.

If you think the only thing that a great shock does is to improve handling maybe you should educate yourself more by reading elsewere. You forgot about the comfort factor.

Now I believe every rider should pick the components they feel comfortable with as some people are destine to ride a Chevrolet Aveo, which, at $10,030 is a great deal and others feel better riding a
BMW 650i or a Mercedes-Benz S550 which does not. It is all where you want to be in life.
 

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Old Jan 16, 2009 | 07:25 PM
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Duplicate due to site/computer glitch, sorry.
 
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Old Jan 17, 2009 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FastHarley

Two large for Harley suspension??? Please. What are you referring to?
Since you undoubtedly are a very seasoned biker and know lots about riding you would know that the comfort you receive riding a good shock in comparison to the 440's that you have is not worth the price? I guess that is in your eyes. The 440's are undoubtedly one of the worst riding shocks out there. If you had a chance to try others than you would know the difference. As far as Wilbers being a good shock, we will just leave it at that. They have never been in the same class.

If you think the only thing that a great shock does is to improve handling maybe you should educate yourself more by reading elsewere. You forgot about the comfort factor.

Now I believe every rider should pick the components they feel comfortable with as some people are destine to ride a Chevrolet Aveo, which, at $10,030 is a great deal and others feel better riding a
BMW 650i or a Mercedes-Benz S550 which does not. It is all where you want to be in life.
1.) I've never seen a custom Penski shock for uner 900-1000, and we would need two.
2.) I know all about low vs. high speed damping, and yes that allows enough low speed control to prevent wallowing/bottoming while the high speed allows the shock to freely move on the big hit.
3.) The 440 is a big improvement over stock, I didn't like the air. The ride is tolerable for now. Is further improvement worth 4x the dollars? Time will tell.
4.) Wilbers is almost as good as Ohlins, which is almost as good as Penski. The Wilbers were custom built (including valving) for my weight and riding style, and I like them. Most Ohlins dealers will put a proper rate spring on a canned shock and send that along. I didn't inquire on the Penski. I did, however, consult a number of folks who own my type of bike and have all three brands of shocks.
5.) I own a Ford Focus, a Ford F-150, and a Mercedes E class. The one I enjoy driving the most is not necessarily the most expensive.
6.) Wherever I go, there I am.
 
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Progressive 12˝" 440's with standard springs.
 
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Old Jan 18, 2009 | 03:51 PM
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Spoke with the Race Tech rep at the IMS this weekend. New coil shocks with settings for my weight are about $600. They also have something called Emulaters for the forks. I likes what they had to say. I'll bet almost anything would ride better that a stock HD shock. They suck. My only question is whether to keep it lowered in the rear. I think it will ride and handle better without the lowering.
 
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Originally Posted by shekmark
Spoke with the Race Tech rep at the IMS this weekend. New coil shocks with settings for my weight are about $600. They also have something called Emulaters for the forks. My only question is whether to keep it lowered in the rear. I think it will ride and handle better without the lowering.
RaceTech has their own shocks? I've done both gold valve and emulator upgrades on past bikes, it is worth the small cost and effort. I went with standard 13" length on my SG, and it still looks fine to me. Good improvement in corner clearance and ride. I should have gone for the 13.5" ones, though.
 
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This has been an interesting thread for me to read. I've had my '99 E-glide for about a year now and the ride sucks! (stock suspension) I've tried different pressures in the rear to no avail. Have been looking for feedback on different options. My biggest problem is finding something that will conform to my different riding styles. Low & slow for cruising, riding 2-up with a passenger , or towing the trailer.
I like the idea of the adjustable air ride, just worried about the longevity VS> the cost.
 
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