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I have a 2008 Road King and went to one harley dealership they said that for the stage one for the electrical part they can do a download and upgrade it. Went to another dealership and they said that i have to buy a different ECM. can anyone tell me which is true
My dealer actually told me to save my money and not do the stage 1 download... How often are you really gonna red line your bike?? 5900 is good for me and I saved a hundred bux...
it's just a download, no change to ECM, the guy didn't know what he was talking about... I've read from alot of people that the download is worthless though... get yourself a good tuner... TTS Mastertune or PCV are the two major ones to look at.
i too have heard the same from dealership to dealership. i think its a sells gimic. i believe you just need a download. one dealership tried to sell me an ecm telling me if i bought the new ecm now and had it flashed that i could do a big bore kit down the road that way you already have the ecm required for engine upgrades.
i too have heard the same from dealership to dealership. i think its a sells gimic. i believe you just need a download. one dealership tried to sell me an ecm telling me if i bought the new ecm now and had it flashed that i could do a big bore kit down the road that way you already have the ecm required for engine upgrades.
I'd like to see the receipt on a job like this, as this recommendation of another ECM is totally bogus. Harley makes one ECM for each year and model and there are two routes to go from them: Stage 1 download and SEST, neither of which involves a hardware change. The Stage 1 is about $150 and is a simple download to the ECM to compensate for changes in the mufflers and/or AC. It will do little for performance since it will still run lean and hot. SEST is a much more expensive software package that allows the rider to make meaningful changes to the bike's EFI functions. It is limited by the narrow-band technology of the stock EFI and is locked into one bike, thus is not transferable. Perhaps the second dealer is referring to a PCV or other third-party EFI controller. Hard to tell without asking them for specifics.
There are other third-party alternatives that many feel are better options, and you can read many opinions on them here.
IMHO I would ga with a Power Commander III or V. Get it from Fuel Moto and they will send it pre-mapped to your bike that's better than the Dynojet canned maps. Their product support in next to none as well. When you do upgrades they will send you a new map at no cost. You can also go in and fine tune your map where on a sert or sest it's more complicated. My PC III works great and the bike runs great. That's my .02 worth. Give Jamie at Fuel Moto a call.
IMHO I would ga with a Power Commander III or V. Get it from Fuel Moto and they will send it pre-mapped to your bike that's better than the Dynojet canned maps. Their product support in next to none as well. When you do upgrades they will send you a new map at no cost. You can also go in and fine tune your map where on a sert or sest it's more complicated. My PC III works great and the bike runs great. That's my .02 worth. Give Jamie at Fuel Moto a call.
Good Luck
Oh,...... and stay away from the stage 1 downlaod. I had a freind who had injecters changed at the dealer. He had a stage 1 download and had his bike dyno tuned. They re-flashed his ecm but left out the download and all but toasted his engine. Something else to think about. Use the old "k.i.s.s." truism!!
IMHO I would ga with a Power Commander III or V. Get it from Fuel Moto and they will send it pre-mapped to your bike that's better than the Dynojet canned maps. Their product support in next to none as well. When you do upgrades they will send you a new map at no cost. You can also go in and fine tune your map where on a sert or sest it's more complicated. My PC III works great and the bike runs great. That's my .02 worth. Give Jamie at Fuel Moto a call.
Good Luck
+1 I researched the hell out of this when I had to make the big decision.... after speaking with Jamie from Fuel Moto, I decided that the PCV was the right direction for me, If I make any changes down the road he'll simply send me another map for that configuration.
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