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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 06:57 PM
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IMO a 203 or 204 would be better suited for an 88" ultra
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 07:05 PM
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This is what makes it hard. Many people say the 211 is great and many others say they aren't. How can it be both ways? The mechanic that always works on my bike says I need the 211 and he based it on his experience of riding many bikes with different cams that he installed. He pulls another mechanic over and asks what cam I should use, and that guy says the 211. The guy says if I had a small bar hopper I would like the 203, but for my bigger touring bike he says go with the 211. These guys are master mechanics with many years of experience. I appreciate everyone's input, but I'm still not sure what to do. Has anyone actually tried both cams in a bagger to compare or is your suggestion based on what someone else told you?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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I'm with you and your Indy Ozoneman. I will be installing the 211 into my stock 88", although I have true dual and SERT. The 203's aren't much over stock at all. I made my choice after riding an Ultra with the 211's. It felt like a new motor. No, it wasn't a screamer, but, my butt liked it. I'm also changing out the cam plate to the SE '07 model with upgraded fuel pump too.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by TheShrink
I'm with you and your Indy Ozoneman. I will be installing the 211 into my stock 88", although I have true dual and SERT. The 203's aren't much over stock at all. I made my choice after riding an Ultra with the 211's. It felt like a new motor. No, it wasn't a screamer, but, my butt liked it. I'm also changing out the cam plate to the SE '07 model with upgraded fuel pump too.
My bike is in the shop now and he will start the work tomorrow. I already have SERT and I'm having true duals put on too. While he is doing all this stuff he is also going to change the cam chain tensioners to the hydraulic updated version.

My mechanic used the same words that you did, "It will feel like a new motor!" He also said the 203s weren't much over stock. It sounds like you are getting similar information that I got.

Are you getting an upgraded fuel pump or oil pump? The hydraulic update includes an updated oil pump.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 07:29 PM
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OK, now we need results. Post up your dyno sheet and thoughts when ya get it back and ride it! Good Luck!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Ozoneman
My bike is in the shop now and he will start the work tomorrow. I already have SERT and I'm having true duals put on too. While he is doing all this stuff he is also going to change the cam chain tensioners to the hydraulic updated version.

My mechanic used the same words that you did, "It will feel like a new motor!" He also said the 203s weren't much over stock. It sounds like you are getting similar information that I got.

Are you getting an upgraded fuel pump or oil pump? The hydraulic update includes an updated oil pump.
Acording to the catalog the upgraded oil pump is included with the cam plate. I am not changing the fuel pump.

I'm condfident that you will enjoy the 211's. Do you have a "before" dyno sheet to compare to? I know your a$$ will know the difference.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:26 PM
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Ozoneman, I think you will be happy with your choice. Plus with a good dyno tune, they should be able to dial in your bike for the bottom end tq.
I am no expert, but from my dyno sheet, Iam pulling full tq by 2500-3000 rpm,and stays flat all the way out. With 100 tq, I doing good as it is to hold on, and I have not even tried to hit it hard yet.

good luck with your build.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 09:33 PM
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Yeah, I have a dyno when I had the SERT installed last year.
71.2 HP, 73.72 Torque, I think he tuned it for both good mileage and performance.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2009 | 10:04 PM
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I just noticed my typo with the fuel pump comment. I did mean the oil pump that comes with the cam plate. Sorry.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2009 | 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Ozoneman
This is what makes it hard. Many people say the 211 is great and many others say they aren't. How can it be both ways? The mechanic that always works on my bike says I need the 211 and he based it on his experience of riding many bikes with different cams that he installed. He pulls another mechanic over and asks what cam I should use, and that guy says the 211. The guy says if I had a small bar hopper I would like the 203, but for my bigger touring bike he says go with the 211. These guys are master mechanics with many years of experience. I appreciate everyone's input, but I'm still not sure what to do. Has anyone actually tried both cams in a bagger to compare or is your suggestion based on what someone else told you?
Wow, I think I'd get that mechanics head checked. The 203's are more than stock. Ask your mechanic if the Andrews TW37 is only a little more than stock, it and the SE 203 are pretty close to one and other. I ran the 203's in a 2005 FLHTCI and they did exactly what I expected and was told. They pulled real good on the bottom and right up to about 5,000 and then fell off. What I've learned is not everyone rides the same. You should ask your mechanic if he will remove the 211's and install another set if you get the bike back and are not happy with it, bet he won't. I've also learned through the years that just because someone may be a master of something that doesn't mean their the best at what they do. I've seen engineers that spent plenty of money on their education and they couldn't figure out how to pour pee out of a boot.
 
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