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Old May 24, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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Technically speaking changing fork oil can not change the amount of dive, it can only change the rate that the front dives at, if you follow my drift. Oil weight controls damping, it can not reduce the amount that the suspension compresses for a given force.
You have a point, but it will slow down the dive. The thicker oil will not change the distance that it dives, but will help the "dive" feel some.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 06:15 AM
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Originally Posted by kingkingking
Technically speaking changing fork oil can not change the amount of dive, it can only change the rate that the front dives at, if you follow my drift. Oil weight controls damping, it can not reduce the amount that the suspension compresses for a given force.
Maybe so, but after changing over to SE Heavy Fork Oil my front end does not dive down at all during any kind of braking. It's a big improvement over the stock "fish" oil.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 06:20 AM
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I've got a brand new set of Ricor Intiminators and 5 wt Amsoil fork oil, package never opened. Yours for $200 (via Paypal) including shipping from Yokohama to your doorstep using USPS Global Express with tracking (which will cost me close to $50). PM me if you're interested.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 06:36 AM
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It's the weight transfer that causes the dive. You want to avoid physics I guess.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by HDV-GLIDE
Maybe so, but after changing over to SE Heavy Fork Oil my front end does not dive down at all during any kind of braking. It's a big improvement over the stock "fish" oil.
No offence but thats impossible. If you use the front brake then the front end will dive. (unless you have a rigid front end!!!)

As BigG said its just physics. weight transfers onto the forks and they compress.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 07:02 AM
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Applying the rear brake at the same time as the front brakes will reduce fork dive.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 07:53 AM
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Change the oil. Big improvement.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by kingkingking
No offence but thats impossible. If you use the front brake then the front end will dive. (unless you have a rigid front end!!!)

As BigG said its just physics. weight transfers onto the forks and they compress.
It may dip down some but nothing compared to when the stock oil was in them...I have a habit of using engine braking and rear brake to slow down normally...In a panic stop, I use both brakes....
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 10:28 AM
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Originally Posted by HDV-GLIDE
It may dip down some but nothing compared to when the stock oil was in them...I have a habit of using engine braking and rear brake to slow down normally...In a panic stop, I use both brakes....
I know it's hard to break old habits but you should be using the front brakes as your primary stopping device. There's a good reason why HD put two big brake disks up there and only one in the back. Applying the rear brake at the same time will keep the front end from diving too much, which is why all the premium tourers from BMW and the Japanese makers feature linked brakes.
 
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Old May 24, 2009 | 10:37 AM
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sounds like a bunch of folks spent big money on other things and don't want you to be happy with your setup unless you spend big money too.

follow the link in iclick's post for changing your fork oil. a lot of us have gone with the se heavy (which is a 20wt) and are extremely pleased with the results. others don't want to go quite as heavy so they mix type e (10wt) and se heavy 50/50 which will give you a 15 wt. also i think belray actually does sell 15 wt. whichever way you go, i guarantee you that it will be better than whats in there now.

try that first. if you don't like it, what are you out? nothing really, because it will be better than stock. but if it isn't enough for you, then you can start spending your hard earned money on other things....
 
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