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I am looking for a 'good' pair of leather, lined riding pants. Has anyone used the Fox Creek Leather Overpants as just riding pants instead of overpants???? I am having trouble finding a quality pair of riding leathers that appeal to me. I like the looks of the Fox Creek the best and perhaps the Timot.
Haven't purchased their pants but have purchased from the Company several times in the past and the Company (Fox Creek) as well as their Customer Service cannot be beat.
I don't have the pants. But I have there chaps,jacket and vest. Their stuff is second to none and their service is the best hands down. I suggest you call them and let them know that you want to wear their overpants as pants I'm sure its just a matter of sizing them corectly...That being said I would still wear full length under armour between the leath and you skin...Just my $.02
yes the stuff is great and the service is better. BUT they size there stuff to small, WHY? because it jacks up the price! Now i have 2 fox creek jackets and 2 pair of gloves ,this spring i wanted another jacket i am size 50 i know they run small so i ordered a 56 of course it cost more than a size 50 when i got the jacket the size was good at 56 but the jacket was so short it was up tp my belly button. i would have to special order it to fit right another 80 bucks bull to that i should be swimming in a size 56 and for it to be to short is a rippoff. they know what they are doing! they have good service because they have to because everybody needs to send there stuff back 3 times before it`s rite, i love the jackets i have ,but never again! i am 6,1 average build.
I don't have the pants. But I have there chaps,jacket and vest. Their stuff is second to none and their service is the best hands down. I suggest you call them and let them know that you want to wear their overpants as pants I'm sure its just a matter of sizing them corectly...That being said I would still wear full length under armour between the leath and you skin...Just my $.02
That is what I was thinking also. I have been e-mailing them (Ashley) about wearing them, not just as overpants. I am totally confident in their product, I just want to get the sizing down the first time.
The ones I have are NOT lined, I don't know if lining is an option since they are made to be worn over pants. They are not lined because lining would make them thicker in the waist and hips, and that is where most folks carry their extra weight. In comparison to my leather pants or my chaps from Bates Leathers they are bulkier than I would like. They have front zippered pockets which add to the bulky feel in front especially when in the saddle. Like all FoxCreek products they are made of heavy leather. The rider is supposed to remove his belt, slip the pants on, and put his belt back on through the belt loops in the pants to hold them up. I found the "belt over leather waistband over blue jeans waistband" really gave me a "thick waisted" feeling if you know what I mean, and I have a 31" waist. So much so that both of my Bates jackets were really tight at the bottom closure. With all the weight, I found EVERYTHING slipping down so I was constantly pulling up the pants. Tightening the belt up enough to prevent slippage was uncomfortable. After one year of wearing them four times I took them to Bates and had them modified for the following reasons:
I had the pockets cut out and sewn closed to get rid of the excess leather and reduce bulkiness.
I had four small tabs sewn in the inside of the waistband, two up front and two out back. I use the tabs to hook up suspenders. The suspenders hold the pants up well enough without the belt giving me a bit more room in the waist.
My biggest complaint is the way they are cut. They are overpants, meaning they are cut like EXTRA Large leather jeans to go over the jeans you are wearing. While they look good standing straight up, they bunch and gather in the crotch while seated. Take a look at your jeans while seated. You will see a gathering of denim folds. Now imagine thick leather on top of that. I suppose a more ergonomic design for how a person sits in the saddle would be better, much like how the shoulders and elbows in well made jackets have a natural bend tailored into them. But that gets into custom tailoring and these are off the shelf. To be honest they are NOT one of my better purchases and they are minimally tolerable since my modifications.
In the order of comfort I list the following for me.
Blue Jeans - Comfort but minimal impact and thickness protection.
Lined Bates Chaps - Comfort but lack of protection in the exposed areas
Lined Leather Jeans - Comfort and protection as long as I make a decision to wear them ALL day or carry extra jeans to change into upon arrival.
Fox Creek Over Pants.
Hope this helps.
Mark
Here is a picture of me wearing them at Bear Tooth Pass.
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