PC V issue. I think
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PC V issue. I think
I was out riding 3oo miles this weekend. This is the longest trip I have taken so far on the 09 SG. One thing I noticed....I got caught in traffic and the bike kicked off the rear cyl. It then loaded up smelling rich, then the bike would shut down. I pulled over and hit the oil temp on the LCD dipstick, 274* Im thinking that when the rear cyl shuts down that the PC V keeps dumping in the same amout of fuel loading it up till it stalls. The bike would start right back up, but kept doing it.
The bike just seemed to run real hot all the time. I would be traveling many miles and come to a traffic light, and she would kick off the rear cyl. I dont think that it should have got that hot to kick off the cyl. just at a light. I was'nt running hard. Doing about 65mph, 2300rpms, 80* day, 32psi oil pressure.
Im gonna call Jamie tommorrow and see if I should get the Auto Tune.
I have ridden in hotter weather and never had an issue.
Dont know if this might be a factor BUT....I was reading about the fork air baffle possibly causing overheating. I did put one on right before I left.
The bike just seemed to run real hot all the time. I would be traveling many miles and come to a traffic light, and she would kick off the rear cyl. I dont think that it should have got that hot to kick off the cyl. just at a light. I was'nt running hard. Doing about 65mph, 2300rpms, 80* day, 32psi oil pressure.
Im gonna call Jamie tommorrow and see if I should get the Auto Tune.
I have ridden in hotter weather and never had an issue.
Dont know if this might be a factor BUT....I was reading about the fork air baffle possibly causing overheating. I did put one on right before I left.
Last edited by brihvac; Jul 5, 2009 at 09:52 PM.
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If your stalling with EITMS on take a look at this thread.
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ompatible.html
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...ompatible.html
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Did it shut down when you rolled the throttle to take off? The smelling rich is the smell you get when it is the single cylinder mode, it kind of smells weird. I have a 08 with a PCV and mine doesn't stall starting out from the EITMS mode, but it definitely doesn't act the same as it did without the PCV it almost stalls, but never has. Others have experienced stalling. I always blip the throttle first then take off when in the EITMS mode. The auto tune won't have anything to do with this problem. You could try to roll the throttle a bit before taking off that and see if it helps. It kind of sucks because Dynojet doesn't seem to address the problem, but there is one for sure. I really do like the PCV, i also have the auto tune and I like it alot. Mine doesn't stall though, I did update the firmware, but I haven't had mine go into the EITMS mode since, so I can't say that it helped anything.
Last edited by RBFB; Jul 5, 2009 at 10:32 PM.
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It does seem you have some type of heat issue going on. I just returned from an 9 hour, 450 mile ride and the temperature was over 100 degrees for all except the last 2 hours.
The bike will kick into EITMS, and will stumble when you try to take off. I just blip the throttle and let the engine rpm pick up before attempting to take off.
Even with 100+ temps, the bike only went into single cylinder mode once today.
The bike will kick into EITMS, and will stumble when you try to take off. I just blip the throttle and let the engine rpm pick up before attempting to take off.
Even with 100+ temps, the bike only went into single cylinder mode once today.
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I'm running a Fuel Moto PCV/Stage 1 aircleaner and my bike's EITMS never kicks in, even in city stop and go traffic on hot days. I don't think autotune is the solution, something's just not working right with your current setup.
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One thing I did do was put that fork air baffle on right before I left. After reading on here it might have been blocking the air from getting to the cyls.
I called FuelMoto and talked to Keith. He sent me another map and suggested I take that air baffle off. Im hoping I did not hurt the motor any. Keith said he doubts I hurt anything.
Its gotta be that air baffle because it has never run this hot before, then after I put the fork air baffle on I start having issues.
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I would have to question if the baffle is causing the problem. We are running in temperatures in excess of 100 degrees and I have a baffle installed.
I am not saying it is not possible, just seems more people would be having heat issues if the baffle was the cause.
I am not saying it is not possible, just seems more people would be having heat issues if the baffle was the cause.
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Did it shut down when you rolled the throttle to take off? The smelling rich is the smell you get when it is the single cylinder mode, it kind of smells weird. I have a 08 with a PCV and mine doesn't stall starting out from the EITMS mode, but it definitely doesn't act the same as it did without the PCV it almost stalls, but never has. Others have experienced stalling. I always blip the throttle first then take off when in the EITMS mode. The auto tune won't have anything to do with this problem. You could try to roll the throttle a bit before taking off that and see if it helps. It kind of sucks because Dynojet doesn't seem to address the problem, but there is one for sure. I really do like the PCV, i also have the auto tune and I like it alot. Mine doesn't stall though, I did update the firmware, but I haven't had mine go into the EITMS mode since, so I can't say that it helped anything.
Last edited by iclick; Jul 6, 2009 at 05:01 PM.
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I also doubt very much that the air baffle is an issue. It doesn't affect air flow to the motor at all. It simply keeps air from drafting upward through the forks and hitting the rider.