Lets get the bugs out of the last changes first. Or do we say hows that change working for you. For some reason I dont think change is a good thing for now.

 

There ya go, that fix was simple for Rick.......and no HD R&D involved...

That's one of the things that made HD an icon.....not everyone (even if you could afford it) could get one....I long for those days also......

 

You must be new to Harley-Davidson. MOCO has never been like some other auto manufacturers that completely redisign their vehicles every year or every other year. Harley changes are typically very subtle, maybe once or twice a decade they will make a "major" change. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

 

Whether it's 2011 or a little later Harley has got to make a move engine wise. The dresser segment is very profitable for Harley and the competition is going to come back with new models soon. With the 2009 improvements to the Harley touring line they finally have a great chassis. There are a lot of folks that tried a new Harley because of all the improvements over the last several years. But part of their success was based on the fact that the Gold wing and the BMW K1200LT had stagnated. Honda is typically tight lipped so who knows what the next Wing will be like. One thing you can count on it won't be anything like the current one except maybe a flat opposed engine. BMW on the other hand just released a concept bike that had a 1600cc six cylinder engine and announced it will be 150 hp+ and power their next luxury touring bike. Harley faces some real challenges going forward. Keeping die hard Harley owners happy has never been a problem. It's the more general motorcyclist that they really haven't figured out yet. These are the guys that love all bikes and will buy based on performance,technology and features regardless of the brand. I'm sure glad I'm not the guy that has to solve that problem. I will say this; build an Ultra Classic with a reliable 120HP liquid cooled V-Twin engine and I'll be first in line.

 

What Harley Davidson really needs to do is to take their touring models and rent some time in a wind tunnel.

Seriously. How much longer are they going to sell $25,000 bikes that beat your head up and blur your vision at speeds over 65?

Has anyone here ridden a modern BMW K1200GT, a modern Goldwing, or one of the new Kawasaki Harley copies? They all have still rider environments. A much more pleasant place to spend a 10 hour day on the road.

I love my Harley, and it's on the way to being equipped like an Ultra, but damn the wind management (or lack thereof) really pisses me off.

I'm convinced Harley engineers can update their wind management and still have a classic looking bike. They did a pretty fantastic job with the new chassis, just finish the job.

Anyone who tells me that wind and buffeting is part of the riding experience has their head in the sand. Ride some competitive products and see for yourself.

 

I'm keeping my 08, I love it and don't care about the 09,10, or 11's

 

If you don't like what Harley has to offer, DON'T BUY ONE!!! There are better performing bikes out there, I just don't think they have the style that Harley does. That's the trade you will have to make, if you can't accept that then get a Goldwing.

 

I thought they did such a good job I went ahaed and bought me a new 2010 ultra classic.

 

So typical. And so narrow minded. It does not have to be a trade-off. Harley just has to spend some time engineering their current models to be better (like they did with the chassis) and not reinvent the wheel.

 

For me is has to be a Harley. I started with Harley. I tried a couple of metrics. They did everything well but so does my washing machine and refrigerator. Thats how I felt about them. I went back to Harley and even if it isn't the latest techno marvel I have that like a kid again feeling everytime I go for a ride.