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Old Sep 2, 2009 | 05:28 AM
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Something ain't right if your performance is just marginally better and your heat management system kicks in all the time. Mine has never kicked in and the oil temperature has never been over over 260 even after a hard run with high mph numbers. I have never put my on the clock but the performance increase on mine feels dramatic.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 01:03 AM
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I have been following these MPG threads closely since I decided to install a PC-V from FuelMoto. I ordered the PCV, and asked Jamie to send me a map that would get decent mileage, without sacrificing too much performance. He sent the PC-V that way, and I installed it along with V&H Monster Ovals and the FuelMoto Stage 1 air cleaner assembly. The install was done at 1005 miles. I rode for about 300 miles, and did not pay attention to the mileage, instead just having fun with the power.

I just returned from a 2225 mile trip to Oregon and Idaho. I carefully logged all of my fuel purchases to see where I was at on mileage. My Ultra consumed a total of 50.9 gallons of fuel, for an average of 43.7 MPG. My worse tank was 37.8 MPG, and my best was 51.0 MPG. Freeway cruising at 65-75 MPH yielded typcally 40-43 MPG, two-lanes at 50-65 MPH were a bit better at 43-51 MPG. Out of 14 fill-ups, only two were less than 40 MPG, one at 37.8 and the other at 38.2.

Overall I am very pleasde with the mileage of my PC-V set-up, but I did specify that I wanted a map that would yield decent mileage.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Rkoetting
I have been following these MPG threads closely since I decided to install a PC-V from FuelMoto. I ordered the PCV, and asked Jamie to send me a map that would get decent mileage, without sacrificing too much performance. He sent the PC-V that way, and I installed it along with V&H Monster Ovals and the FuelMoto Stage 1 air cleaner assembly. The install was done at 1005 miles. I rode for about 300 miles, and did not pay attention to the mileage, instead just having fun with the power.

I just returned from a 2225 mile trip to Oregon and Idaho. I carefully logged all of my fuel purchases to see where I was at on mileage. My Ultra consumed a total of 50.9 gallons of fuel, for an average of 43.7 MPG. My worse tank was 37.8 MPG, and my best was 51.0 MPG. Freeway cruising at 65-75 MPH yielded typcally 40-43 MPG, two-lanes at 50-65 MPH were a bit better at 43-51 MPG. Out of 14 fill-ups, only two were less than 40 MPG, one at 37.8 and the other at 38.2.

Overall I am very pleasde with the mileage of my PC-V set-up, but I did specify that I wanted a map that would yield decent mileage.
Very good. I am glad for you. I am about ready to see if they will give me a refund for mine.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 02:47 PM
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Old 96, if you like, ask Jamie if the map he created for me, Robert Koetting, would be appropriate for your bike. If you want any further info, PM me, for example if he needs my invoice number to look up my map. I know decent mileage can be had, I proved it to myself, so it should be doable for your scoot also.
 
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 03:01 PM
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the fuel u get also makes a HUGE difference,i live in a area that has aditives in the fuel for polution control and it sucks dropps the mpg to around 36 when i get fuel in the rural counties mpg goes to around 40.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by bigdumbnoitall00
the fuel u get also makes a HUGE difference,i live in a area that has aditives in the fuel for polution control and it sucks dropps the mpg to around 36 when i get fuel in the rural counties mpg goes to around 40.

aint that chit the truth.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Rkoetting
I have been following these MPG threads closely since I decided to install a PC-V from FuelMoto. I ordered the PCV, and asked Jamie to send me a map that would get decent mileage, without sacrificing too much performance. He sent the PC-V that way, and I installed it along with V&H Monster Ovals and the FuelMoto Stage 1 air cleaner assembly. The install was done at 1005 miles. I rode for about 300 miles, and did not pay attention to the mileage, instead just having fun with the power.

I just returned from a 2225 mile trip to Oregon and Idaho. I carefully logged all of my fuel purchases to see where I was at on mileage. My Ultra consumed a total of 50.9 gallons of fuel, for an average of 43.7 MPG. My worse tank was 37.8 MPG, and my best was 51.0 MPG. Freeway cruising at 65-75 MPH yielded typcally 40-43 MPG, two-lanes at 50-65 MPH were a bit better at 43-51 MPG. Out of 14 fill-ups, only two were less than 40 MPG, one at 37.8 and the other at 38.2.

Overall I am very pleasde with the mileage of my PC-V set-up, but I did specify that I wanted a map that would yield decent mileage.
My experiance with a PCIII on my 07 Ultra is almost identical. Did a road trip from central Arkansas to east Tennesse and averaged about 43.3 on a 1,700 mile trip. Performance was greatly inproved and themal issue was non-existant.
 
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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by bigdumbnoitall00
the fuel u get also makes a HUGE difference,i live in a area that has aditives in the fuel for polution control and it sucks dropps the mpg to around 36 when i get fuel in the rural counties mpg goes to around 40.
That's a good point, as the E10 fuel we have in this area produces 3% lower BTU output than normal gas, so I've seen a reduction in mileage since its introduction in Oct. 2008. Whereas I could frequently hit 50mpg with this bike before E10 I am seeing 48-49 under the same riding conditions, and since the introduction of E10 I've only hit 50mpg when riding in other locations far away from here. We have ozone problems here and the EPA dictates that E10 be sold in this parish (county) and the surrounding area.
 

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Old Sep 5, 2009 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by OLD 96
Very good. I am glad for you. I am about ready to see if they will give me a refund for mine.
You mileage depends on riding conditions and your behavior, as you know. I don't hot-rod around much but can only manage 38mpg in city riding with this crummy E10 gas we have here, but put me on the backroads and my mileage will be in the upper 40's to as high as 50mpg. You can do it too, as I also have an '07.

Are you running AT? If not, email me here and send me your map so I can look at it. I'll make some changes and will send it back for you to try.
 
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Old Sep 6, 2009 | 09:30 AM
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I just returned home from a 3800 mile ride from Seattle to Decatur, Al. I carried a net book with me to adjust the PCV/AT to my engine build. I have every one of the gas tickets but have not crunched them yet. I did get a high of 48 mpg and was getting 40 mpg running 75 to 80 mph on I-40 form New Mexico to Memphis, Tn. This was two up and about 50 lbs of baggage. With my set up I had to reduce timing in the cruise range (-10) to eliminate spark knock. I also set the afr's at 14.7 in the cruise range without any noticable heat increase. This is far better from the 30 mpg I was getting with the "canned map". Now the bike pulls good and smooth from 1500 rpm all he way to the top. IMHO the PCV/AT is a good tool. It allows me to tune my bike to the real road and load and not the what a dyno thinks is the road and load should be. All my tuning was done below 60% throttle and I cut and paste the full power dyno tune numbers from 60% up to my new map and switched back to open loop. Now I have a cusom map for my scoot.
 

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