Not necessarily true. Fuel Moto maps are generally very accurate and you may not get a better tune locally. It all depends on the skill of the tuner, and even with a competent tech you may not do better than a map provided for your specific hardware application from FM. My 2¢.

You could do that, but if it is a Fuel Moto map there is an argument as to how ethical this would be, unless of course they offered it to you. FM doesn't generally provide maps unless you buy the PC from them, and the map is a key selling point. Maps from the PC database or from someone who has done a dyno-tune with identical equipment would be fair game, however, AFAIK. As for whether someone is wise giving you a map that he spent $250 or more getting, that's their choice, as I don't think there would be any legal issues in doing that. The tuner doesn't have a legal hold (copyright, etc.) on the maps they create, AFAIK.

I'm not aware of any copyright or other legal issues associated with PC maps.

 

Wait a minute. There are lots of guys with the auto-tuned maps that are probably more accurate than any dyno tuned map. I've seen what an auto-tuned map on my bike can do. It's tuned for everyday running as well as power. It won't auto tune the timing but you can use some of the canned maps from dyno jet as a guide. I'm convinced i have my bike in a better state of tune after a couple months than it could ever have been on a dyno. I wouldn't mind sharing mine with someone and i'm sure most guys wouldn't either. 103" with SE 204 cams. It would take 4 different screen captures, one for each cylinder, one for AFR, and one for timing. No one would own that. Someone ought to start a thread to post auto-tuned PCV maps.

 

I just installed a PCV on my 07 last weekend...bought it from Fuel Moto...bike was stock other than V&H Fuelpak,exhaust and hi flow air cleaner...bike ran fine before and didnt have any heat issues to my knowledge....with the PCV,it seems like I am riding a different bike...smoother at speed and the throttle response is awesome...sounds (better) like a different bike too...only drawback is it takes a bit longer to start when cold...not enough to complain about...thanks Fuel Moto!!!
PS:...when I ordered the PCV,I didnt mention the fact that I had the 'torque smoothing dl'...does that make any difference?....thanks

 

The reason I posted the option of the other web site having map availability was I contacted Jamie at FuelMoto a couple of months back and wanted to buy a new PCIII. I explained I already had one, purchased way before I even knew he existed, but could not find a good map so would buy one from them to have access to their mapping. Jamie told me that he would help me out and I stated I was more than happy to pay for the map because I had heard such good feedback about his operation. He told me to send him my information and he would get back to me. I waited about 3 weeks and didn't hear anything so sent a follow up email, still nothing. I then found out on the forum they were moving locations so I just chalked it up to the confusion and hassles pulling off a move while conducting business. A week ago I sent another email laying this all out again but I still havn't heard anything back. I would think there would be a market to sell maps, although i am by no stretch of the imagination an expert on that subject. Long story short or rather long, lol, my bike runs pretty good, gets 38 mpg but is still somewhat hot. I would love to try a FuelMoto map and pay for it if necessary. This would not pull business away from FuelMoto but rather relieve some pressure with a map sharing capability. People go to Jamie because he is the resident expert on the topic and for a fair price puts a package together tailored for your bike and riding expectations, then stands behind it. My 02cents, well maybe 25cents as long winded as this was.

 

jamie and keith are great with customer service. if they were only selling the power commanders and their mufflers, etc, they'd be like 95% of the other vendors, only selling an item, rather than supporting it after the sale. honestly i'm happy with the smoothness, the increased torque with my 08 streetglide, but disappointed with the drop in fuel economy from 42+ mpg, down to low to mid 30's. same riding condtions, but i'm sure if i get back in touch with them, they'll help me to figure out where it's running too fat. i was about to pull the pcv and put it up for sale in the classifieds, without giving it a chance, but i'm sure there is a solution that keith or jamie can come up with. how to download from them into my mac computer though? hmm......... but honestly, they're putting out a whole lot of effort in making things right, that is exactly why they are successful with their business.

 

just a side note scubadog, the theory of sharing maps might sound like a good idea, however, can you imagine how many guys would end up assuming that hey this map #24752 would work perfect on my bike, and they'd end up with something that would be an absolute nightmare to get straightened out? even the thought of sharing maps that way would make the hair on the back of someones neck stand up, knowing how many perfectly good running bikes would instantly become unrideable at best. a bit of knowledge can create a monster, a whole lot of knowledge mixed in with wisdom and experience can create a thing of beauty and harmony. nuff said???

 

I believe sharing maps is a good idea. If it wern't then Dynojet would't make canned maps available. I can not speak to the PCV but the PCIII is only a 9 volt battery and a USB cable away from straightening out what ever problem a particular map may have caused, thats the beauty of it. If one map doesn't get you where you want you can tweak it or grab another one that is closer to your specs. The other site has an entire area dedicated to map sharing, and it is not just PCIII / PCV but other fuel management systems also. This is a great thread, maybe something positive and helpful for all those that didn't know about FuelMoto or used another source when we purchased our fuel management system will come of this.

 

Before my cam upgrade, the Fuel Moto base map I had for my stock TC96 with FM Power Package showed almost no trims after adding Auto-Tune, which testifies to the accuracy of this base map. Of course after adding the cams the AT simplified the tuning process greatly.

 

Try hitting the starter immediately after turning on the igntion. That may help with the delay.

No difference at all. That DL is almost three years old and all maps created by FM since takes that into account.

 

it wern't then Dynojet would't make canned maps available.
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