OHLINS vs Stock Shocks
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OHLINS vs Stock Shocks
I didn't want to hijack the other threads, but I have some specific questions.
Background
My brother wants to upgrade to a Road King. I had him ride mine, a 2008 Classic, with no pressure in the shocks. The ride quality is still a little too harsh for him (we both are 150lbs). He's only interested in ride comfort.
1. For those of you who bought Ohlins, what model/length did you buy? And how much improvement was there relative to stock?
2. What's the difference between #2 and #3 (some of the posts in the other threads said they bought #2 and #3. Motorcycle Metal's site seems to show different shocks)?
3. Do #2 or #3 have adjustable dampers?
Thanks for any info,
Joe
Background
My brother wants to upgrade to a Road King. I had him ride mine, a 2008 Classic, with no pressure in the shocks. The ride quality is still a little too harsh for him (we both are 150lbs). He's only interested in ride comfort.
1. For those of you who bought Ohlins, what model/length did you buy? And how much improvement was there relative to stock?
2. What's the difference between #2 and #3 (some of the posts in the other threads said they bought #2 and #3. Motorcycle Metal's site seems to show different shocks)?
3. Do #2 or #3 have adjustable dampers?
Thanks for any info,
Joe
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Joe, Go to the type of bike you have ie: Bagger etc. The first number #2 is the type of shock and the next number denotes the length and stroke ie #2~#3 which is a Emulsified Length = 13 1/4"/337mm & Stroke: 4 3/32"/104 mm.
A Model # 3 is a separated (nitrogen gas separated by a piston from the oil) system, length externally adjustable, and rebound is also externally adjustable.
All shocks are individually built for the customer and no order is processed without a build form submitted by the prospective new purchaser. Shocks are a tool. A shock should be chosen by the features required by the individuals own riding style. Never purchase more features than needed.
A Model # 3 is a separated (nitrogen gas separated by a piston from the oil) system, length externally adjustable, and rebound is also externally adjustable.
All shocks are individually built for the customer and no order is processed without a build form submitted by the prospective new purchaser. Shocks are a tool. A shock should be chosen by the features required by the individuals own riding style. Never purchase more features than needed.
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Joe,
You got the definitive answer above. Rather than ask for hearsay advice from people on the forum as to which would be best for you, go directly to Howard and he will build what you need. He worked closely with me. Probably exchanged at least 10 phone calls and emails in total. He didn't try to upsell me to something I didn't need. I have about 400 miles on the shocks now and am very happy with what he did for me.
You got the definitive answer above. Rather than ask for hearsay advice from people on the forum as to which would be best for you, go directly to Howard and he will build what you need. He worked closely with me. Probably exchanged at least 10 phone calls and emails in total. He didn't try to upsell me to something I didn't need. I have about 400 miles on the shocks now and am very happy with what he did for me.
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Not to hi-jack this thread but what's the answer to the $64,000 question? I think just about everyone wants to know if they really are better than everything else and worth the investment.
Personally I've used Ohlins on racebikes (motocross) and they are a high quality unit and work superbly on long travel suspensions so I have no doubts regarding their quality. I simply hesitate to spend double the price of just about anything else without knowing if the ride will be twice as good.
Personally I've used Ohlins on racebikes (motocross) and they are a high quality unit and work superbly on long travel suspensions so I have no doubts regarding their quality. I simply hesitate to spend double the price of just about anything else without knowing if the ride will be twice as good.
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I just ordered some 13ź" #2's and they should be shipping on Wednesday, so hopefully I'll have an early report by the weekend or early the following week.
I agree with Omgtkk that Howard is a very patient explainer and I didn't feel that he was trying to up-sell me to the #3's, although he did explain them after I asked. I decided on the #2's based on my understanding that the separated technology of the #3's would be most beneficial to off-road or adventure bikers who frequently get off the beaten path. Like most of us I keep on the pavement and try to avoid bad roads, and although I do some aggressive cornering I don't consider myself a candidate for the #3's.
I also didn't like the fact that the #3's had less stroke than the 13ź" #2's, which means more suspension travel that should translate into a better ride. I also didn't feel like I needed adjustable length or rebound control, so after about two weeks of study and about five calls to Howard I made the decision. If they're all they're touted to be I think they'll be a winner for $500.
As for how they compare to anything else on the market I will be able to give an assessment based on my experience with the 12" HD air shocks (std. SG) and 12˝" Progressive 440's.
I agree with Omgtkk that Howard is a very patient explainer and I didn't feel that he was trying to up-sell me to the #3's, although he did explain them after I asked. I decided on the #2's based on my understanding that the separated technology of the #3's would be most beneficial to off-road or adventure bikers who frequently get off the beaten path. Like most of us I keep on the pavement and try to avoid bad roads, and although I do some aggressive cornering I don't consider myself a candidate for the #3's.
I also didn't like the fact that the #3's had less stroke than the 13ź" #2's, which means more suspension travel that should translate into a better ride. I also didn't feel like I needed adjustable length or rebound control, so after about two weeks of study and about five calls to Howard I made the decision. If they're all they're touted to be I think they'll be a winner for $500.
As for how they compare to anything else on the market I will be able to give an assessment based on my experience with the 12" HD air shocks (std. SG) and 12˝" Progressive 440's.
Last edited by iclick; Sep 6, 2009 at 11:20 AM.
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Not to hi-jack this thread but what's the answer to the $64,000 question? I think just about everyone wants to know if they really are better than everything else and worth the investment.
Personally I've used Ohlins on racebikes (motocross) and they are a high quality unit and work superbly on long travel suspensions so I have no doubts regarding their quality. I simply hesitate to spend double the price of just about anything else without knowing if the ride will be twice as good.
Personally I've used Ohlins on racebikes (motocross) and they are a high quality unit and work superbly on long travel suspensions so I have no doubts regarding their quality. I simply hesitate to spend double the price of just about anything else without knowing if the ride will be twice as good.
This above pricing comparison does not include, for instance a sealed non nitrogen & non-rebuildable throw away (like a progressive 412) vs a lifetime buy only once, rebuildable, real spring choices, and re-valavable (in the case of ie: change motorcycle models (Sportster to Bagger) or your wife gains an extra 300 lbs).
I think the question should be asked to those previous Ohlins owners (on this forum for this application) who have already purchased a set of "made for them Ohlins" shocks; "Would you commit (sentenced) for a period of 3 years to use set of Progressive 440's for free (you must ride them full time and everywhere) or pay full price for a set of Ohlins". A very interesting question answered only by qualified and experienced Ohlins owners.
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iclick,
I would be interested on your comparison of the Ohlins and the 440's. I also have the 12.5" standard spring 440's on my SG. They are a little firm during low speed riding and still bottom out on me on abrupt bumps. I have the preload at 2 full turns. I will add one more turn... What did you have yours set to?
I am 200lbs and with the lowered stock seat, I can reach the ground flat footed.
Thanks,
Theo.
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I would be interested on your comparison of the Ohlins and the 440's. I also have the 12.5" standard spring 440's on my SG. They are a little firm during low speed riding and still bottom out on me on abrupt bumps. I have the preload at 2 full turns. I will add one more turn... What did you have yours set to?
I am 200lbs and with the lowered stock seat, I can reach the ground flat footed.
Thanks,
Theo.
'09 SG
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iclick,
I would be interested on your comparison of the Ohlins and the 440's. I also have the 12.5" standard spring 440's on my SG. They are a little firm during low speed riding and still bottom out on me on abrupt bumps. I have the preload at 2 full turns. I will add one more turn... What did you have yours set to?
I am 200lbs and with the lowered stock seat, I can reach the ground flat footed.
I would be interested on your comparison of the Ohlins and the 440's. I also have the 12.5" standard spring 440's on my SG. They are a little firm during low speed riding and still bottom out on me on abrupt bumps. I have the preload at 2 full turns. I will add one more turn... What did you have yours set to?
I am 200lbs and with the lowered stock seat, I can reach the ground flat footed.
Last edited by iclick; Sep 7, 2009 at 06:43 AM.
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Thanks.