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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 03:33 AM
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I agree with hatchetman, oil flow is something you really do not want to mess with unless you know what your are doing. Besides, the thermostat is a good thing so why get rid of it?
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 03:39 AM
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Hey, I just wanted to post and not answer the original question like everyone else. Hope this helps.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 06:18 AM
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Guess I will install as recommended by Harley. My oil reached 270 degrees yesterday and that can't be good. Thanks for all the help.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bagman1
I believe those holes were from the machining process. I think I read somewhere someone tried that and had almost no oil pressure. You need to use the adapter. Ive got one and never notice it there.
Those are there used for the machining process on the block only.
Not for cooling lines.

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Guess I will install as recommended by Harley. My oil reached 270 degrees yesterday and that can't be good. Thanks for all the help.
Good idea.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 07:47 AM
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I have questioned the plugs myself and was told they can't be used. Still not clear what they are.

Regarding the filter, you're correct. The Harley adaptor is not a quality piece. The tests show that it may even restrict oil flow. On most models the gasket is of incorrect design for the adaptor. You can put a Jagg 10 row cooler and adaptor on it. If it's an 09 or 10, the Jagg low mount is not what is shown on the site and is not a good looking cooler; the lines are a mess. Jagg (IMO) did not come up with the right design for the new frame change. Also, and I'm not sure of this, Jagg's 10 row might ride a little low to the ground making it a little more liable to road debris as far as I can tell from they're pics. You can use they're vertical but most of use prefer the low mount.

Here's what I did on my 09 Road King. I used the HD cooler, bracket and lines and I bought the Jagg adaptor. Best $100.00 I spent. It blows away the HD and its design is such that it doesn't restrict oil flow by routing the oil through the filter first. I bought the one without the thermostat. Jagg will tell you a thermostat is absolutely not necessary, but that's your choice - either works. This is the key. You can use the HD pre-molded hoses with the Jagg adaptor. While the inlets and outlet are under the oil filter on the Jagg adaptor versus above the filter on the HD, you can flex them downward and they work perfectly. My system is running 20 degrees cooler with this set-up and Mobil 1 Syn. This did not occur on my Dyna where I did the same except used the HD adaptor.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 28gauge
It blows away the HD and its design is such that it doesn't restrict oil flow by routing the oil through the filter first.
Your reasoning is somewhat skewed. HD routes the oil through the filter first for a reason. You want the oil filtered before going through the oil cooler. The hot oil flows much better than cool oil does. If you cooled the oil first, it would become more viscous and not flow as well. There is actually less of a restriction doing it this way. Just trying to shed some light on their reasoning.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 08:48 AM
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You're correct, I reversed the process. The Jagg goes through the filter first enhancing flow where the HD does not.
 
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Old Nov 2, 2009 | 09:06 AM
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I just remembered also by using those relief plugs for oil flow your oil will forever bypass the filter because of the path of least resistance. Which means your oil wil never be filtered.
 
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Originally Posted by Gearhead3
Your reasoning is somewhat skewed. HD routes the oil through the filter first for a reason. You want the oil filtered before going through the oil cooler.
Another thought is that all the crap the filter filters out will now being going thru the cooler.
It could be deposited on the tubing wall or even blocking flow completely.
 
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