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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 10:35 PM
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No need to replace. The bearings in the older models did have a recall may years ago. There is no need to change the bearing. The OEM bearing are of good quality and will last as long as any other bearing in your engine. If your being told that they are week, then why not replace the crank and rod bearing also? Just my opinion. Good insurance would to be buy the extended warranty.
And you may well be right. I do find it interesting that the dealership where I bought by bearings (Torringtons) keeps them in stock largely because their service department (that's a Harley Davison service department) installs the Torringtons on every cam replacement they do.
 
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 11:18 PM
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Most definately replace, do it right the first time!
 
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Old Nov 7, 2009 | 11:33 PM
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I replaced mine. The OEM bearings may be OK, but I know the Torringtons are good.

I wish I would have thought about getting the puller from Autozone, still it never hurts to have another tool....and since its a tool, it really doesn't count towards the cost of the cam install..
 
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 02:17 PM
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OK, I have replaced them. I now have another question. My rear cam gear is .020 lower than my crank sproket. The book says no more than .010. How many of you have even checked this after changing the cams let alone made the adjustment? I want to fire this thing up today....
 
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 03:16 PM
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Do a poll. Has anyone on this forum PERSONALLY experienced a inner cam bearing failure? The answer is NO. Many will tell you about a friend that had a failure, but non have experienced them selfs. That is a myth that has grown feet and has not stopped running. I read another post that a guy has 80,000 on his 09 Harley and has only completed normal services using non syn oil and has experienced NO mechanical issues. Bike is all stock, no upgrades, just rides the bike and changes his oil. I changed my cam myself and did not change the inner bearing. at this time i have not experienced any problems.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by HD REBEL
OK, I have replaced them. I now have another question. My rear cam gear is .020 lower than my crank sproket. The book says no more than .010. How many of you have even checked this after changing the cams let alone made the adjustment? I want to fire this thing up today....
I Checked mine. All you got to do is add the .020 thk shim washer. I didn't engineer the cam chest but my bet is that it would last longer and run quieter if it were in spec. Visa versa if its out of spec. Just my $.02.
 

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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 07:31 PM
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Torrington/Timken if you check closely have closed down their biggest plant in America and is mainly making bearings in Asia, this was due to Timken aquiring Torrington and needing to slash costs and maximize profits. I think Timken has 1 small facility here in the US. INA is a euro company with plants worldwide and a few in asia. This is just some info I have found while checking out this idea that some how a full compliment bearing (Torrington/Timken) in a low load higher rpm application would be superior to a caged version(INA) that is much more open to lubrication. Think this is leftover paranoia from the evo days.
 
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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by duffey11
Do a poll. Has anyone on this forum PERSONALLY experienced a inner cam bearing failure? The answer is NO. Many will tell you about a friend that had a failure, but non have experienced them selfs. That is a myth that has grown feet and has not stopped running. I read another post that a guy has 80,000 on his 09 Harley and has only completed normal services using non syn oil and has experienced NO mechanical issues. Bike is all stock, no upgrades, just rides the bike and changes his oil. I changed my cam myself and did not change the inner bearing. at this time i have not experienced any problems.
Sooo - the FACT that my riding buddy had a total inner cam bearing failure and had to have his engine torn apart and rebuilt is irrelevant because it didn't happen to me? Er - ok. Of course I replaced my bearings when I bored out my cylinders and installed a 203 cam (on by Fatboy). Hmm - and you're right I haven't had a failure ever since. Not sure where you're going with this. I'm sure stock bearings are a lot better than the originals but let's face it there's a lot about the stock design that is less than perfect.
 
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Originally Posted by duffey11
No need to replace. The bearings in the older models did have a recall may years ago. There is no need to change the bearing. The OEM bearing are of good quality and will last as long as any other bearing in your engine. If your being told that they are week, then why not replace the crank and rod bearing also? Just my opinion. Good insurance would to be buy the extended warranty.

>>Good insurance would to be buy the extended warranty.<< he is changing his own cams.....The warranty isn't worth using it to wipe up the oil he will spill..

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Originally Posted by duffey11
...The bearings in the older models did have a recall may years ago. There is no need to change the bearing. ...
What years are thought to have weak inner cam bearings? When was the recall issued on the older bikes? What years were affected?

I see George's website offers "B148" for the TC88 motors. Does my '04 RK (TC88) have the same inner cam bearing worries?

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