I've been looking at the Andrews 26N conversion kit with heavy duty torrington bearings, new oil pump, adjustable pushrods, new lifters, and 4 hours of dyno time. My wrench quoted me $1860. OTD...Do you think this is a fair price? Thnks in advance for your input.

 

I have the same setup, minus the adj pushrods, and it runs great. Price sounds kinda high considering what I paid for parts but I did the install with dawg so I can't speak to what a dealer would charge for labor. But I think 4 hours on the dyno is excessive and I'd make sure he has your bike on the dyno for 4 hours and not 1 hour and sitting there for 3.

 

I would find another wrench or do some homework and price the parts so you can negotiate with him.

Good cam, assume the conversion kit you make reference to is the later model stock cam plate, oil pump, roller chains and hydraulic tensioners? That kit goes for $450 or thereabouts depending on where you get it. The parts can be bought from Zanotti's or another discount H-D dealer for about $370. Cams will run $250-$280 depending on where you buy them. Adjustable pushrods will run $150-$175 depending on what you buy and where. Torrington bearings are cheap, about $15/set. Lifters will run $75-$100 depending on what you buy and where. Four hours for labor at $75/hour and dyno tune should run $250-$300; four hours is too long to tune for just a cam conversion. Your wrench can buy these parts at a discount and should be able to do the job for $1$1200-$1300 plus the dyno tune which shouldn't run more than $250. You can save some bucks by retaining the stock pushrods; you don't need adjustables, that just saves time for the tech. Even loosening the rocker boxes to remove pushrods, shop labor should not be more than four hours. The lifters are roller tip so unless you have many miles, you really don't need new lifters. Having said that, if you can swing it with your budget, get a set of the H-D "B" lifter. Really not a difficult job, especially with the new cam plate/tensioner package. Save yourself $300 and to it yourself. There is a post in this forum illustrating what is involved in a cam change; see Cam Change Day 3 by atrain68.

You did not mention your fuel management system. If you don't have the TTS Mastertune, SEST, SERT, Power Commander or Thundermax, dyno time is not required. If the cam is the only upgrade, you can get by with the TFI; can't adjust timing but, as those type systems go, the TFI is probably the best and you can plus/minus fuel and "tune" yourself. Stay away from the factor downloads to your ECM; they only work with H-D upgrade kits.

 

Should be around 900 plus dyno tune......They are padding a little IMO.

Mark

 

Buy your conversion kit from Herko. Do the work yourself, or where are you located? I work for beer....and the occasional left behind camera and a pair of gloves (petemac take notice) and then just pay for the dyno!

 

If you decide to go with the conversion kit and conversion cams, send Herko an email and ask for a price quote and parts list. He puts his own kit together that includes the HD kit along with a other stuff(gaskets, etc..) that aren't included in the HD kit. Great guy and delivers what he says.

John Wadsworth herko@insightbb.com

 

And the wife is still walking around the house looking for her camera and gloves....

 

Be careful with the dealers charging 4 hours for a tune. A lot of the time they take an existing map that's a 90% match for your bike and spend an hour dialing in the last 10 percent for your bike and charge you(4 hours) like they were doing the whole tune from scratch.

 

Herko includes chocolates and cracker jacks too!

 

Thanks for the info guys...I would like to do it myself, but with work, school, and family I just don't have any time. I thought it was a little high myself, but wanted to get others opinion.