No More Clunk
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From: Deep South Texas
I have a one lane driveway with 2 cars and a trailer parked in it. When I backed my bike out of the garage today I couldn't turn it around so I had to back it out about 30 feet. I got no clunk going into first. So if you don't like the clunk just back your bike up 30 feet every time you put it in 1st. I don't get a clunk 25% of the time anyway. Thinking about buying a house with a 2 lane driveway.
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From: Woodstock, Ont , Can
So in your "THEORY", a chain that is too tight due to an auto tensioner puts more load on the clutch hub bearing than say 100 ft lbs of torque in first gear at 5000 rpms with the front wheel off the ground?
Come on try again!!!
I know FOR A FACT that a bike with a loose, properly adjusted or even tight chain will clunk.
IT IS NOT DUE TO THE PRIMARY CHAIN!
Come on try again!!!
I know FOR A FACT that a bike with a loose, properly adjusted or even tight chain will clunk.
IT IS NOT DUE TO THE PRIMARY CHAIN!
Ron
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Iam glad it works for you, dont stop doing what works, but dont use irrational speculation as to why it works. What I posted above is plain mechanical fact.
The loudest clunking bike I ever heard was a 2000 XL1200 (no auto adjuster there) a friend bought it used in 2000 and asked me to test ride it to check it out, I serviced that same bike this year and after adjusting both the clutch and primary chain to perfection (cuz thats how I work) I dropped it into gear and remembered what bike it was by the clunk.
The loudest clunking bike I ever heard was a 2000 XL1200 (no auto adjuster there) a friend bought it used in 2000 and asked me to test ride it to check it out, I serviced that same bike this year and after adjusting both the clutch and primary chain to perfection (cuz thats how I work) I dropped it into gear and remembered what bike it was by the clunk.
It's a good thing that I don't value your opinion much.
Also, you may not realize this, but your sig pic is so stretched out of proportion that it hurts the eyes to even view your posts. Using that sig pic is "irrational". He he!
If you use the same kind of judgment on your bike - we are wasting our time trying to explain logic to you.
The friggin' chain tension has effect on clunk. I have proved this thru actual process of elimination. Hands on test, hands on results.
Real world results, non of that test book crapola. Real world stuff. Physically tested and proven.
What I do know is that all my manual adjusters on all my previous bikes stayed dialed in perfectly because I adjusted them meticulously.
I kept up with the clutch adjustment as well. I ran top notch fluids.
My stuff ran smoothly.
My 08 with the "so called" auto adjuster had a much stiffer shift and louder clunk, even with the good fluid and well adjusted clutch.
The new hydraulic adjuster quieted everything down and smoothed out the shifts.
I kept up with the clutch adjustment as well. I ran top notch fluids.
My stuff ran smoothly.
My 08 with the "so called" auto adjuster had a much stiffer shift and louder clunk, even with the good fluid and well adjusted clutch.
The new hydraulic adjuster quieted everything down and smoothed out the shifts.
The only change that removed the clunk, was the new hydraulic tensioner.
Clutch adjustment and fluid quality were the same in both tests.
Don't believe it? Nobody cares.
Please fix your sig pic (or remove it). It's making me cross-eyed.
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So in your "THEORY", a chain that is too tight due to an auto tensioner puts more load on the clutch hub bearing than say 100 ft lbs of torque in first gear at 5000 rpms with the front wheel off the ground?
100 ft lbs at 5000 rpm is momentary.
Tight chain load is 24/7.
100 ft lbs at 5000 rpm has nothing to do with this topic.
Clunking issues are going from neutral to 1st gear, at idle.
Your analogy is "irrational".
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Joined: Jun 2008
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From: Texas
After 30k service I did on my RKC,it barely clunks,if at all.
I am starting to catch a lot of grief from other riders about it.Saying things like I'm just a poser,that Real Biker's bikes clunk.
Any ideas on what I need to do to get my clunk back ?
I am starting to catch a lot of grief from other riders about it.Saying things like I'm just a poser,that Real Biker's bikes clunk.
Any ideas on what I need to do to get my clunk back ?
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From: ID Ho
Sig better for ya sunshine?
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Loosen your primary chain. He he!
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My analogy is that there is WAY more load on the clutch hub bearing under that kind of load compared to a tight chain at idle. If his theory was correct at that kind of load the clutch hub would bind up so tight the bike couldnt move. His is just another uneducated guess!
High RPM the gears are so well synced, that all you have to do is momentarily let of the throttle, to shift without a clutch.
It'll go smoothly into gear. No clutch. (not so at idle).
Seems that this stuff is pretty far above your head. (brain is at idle)
I think it's time to give up and let you someday figure it out on your own.
You just don't get this stuff.
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From: ID Ho
The gears are so well synced at high rpm, that you don't even need your clutch to shift. (not so at idle).
High RPM the gears are so well synced, that all you have to do is momentarily let of the throttle, to shift without a clutch.
It'll go smoothly into gear. No clutch. (not so at idle).
Seems that this stuff is pretty far above your head. (brain is at idle)
I think it's time to give up and let you someday figure it out on your own.
You just don't get this stuff.
High RPM the gears are so well synced, that all you have to do is momentarily let of the throttle, to shift without a clutch.
It'll go smoothly into gear. No clutch. (not so at idle).
Seems that this stuff is pretty far above your head. (brain is at idle)
I think it's time to give up and let you someday figure it out on your own.
You just don't get this stuff.
Last edited by hog-doc; Mar 4, 2010 at 10:09 PM.