IDS Installed Incorrectly
Road Master
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From: USA
Ok guys, forgive the dumb question...I have an 07 SG that hasn't given me any grief (yet). I don't have an IDS installed at this time. I have read a number of posts where they have given people problems due to one reason or another. Exactly what kind of problem does it solve? Maybe it's something I will experience in the future. So, I'd like to know exactly what operating problem it rectifies.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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From: Bellevue, NE
Yeah, but that 2 piece sprocket assembly just sits together. If he flips the rim over it's gonna seperate and the inner spacer comes out. Right? Or is my memory that bad?
Tourer
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: Upstate, NY
You are right! Good memory. If you lean the tire over far enough (on the sprocket side), the sprocket will fall off and the inner spacer will fall out. I have seen that happen a couple of times. I have also seen a couple of inner spacers that were so heavily greased that they actually stuck to sprocket when the sprocket was pulled off the hub. Could see setting the sprocket down and then having the inner spacer getting lost if you are not specifically looking for it.
Road Warrior
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From: Southeastern Michigan
Jimski,
The IDS dampens the power pulses during initial clutch let out, and somewhat between shifts. It'll also smooth out the driveline lash while riding at low RPM's, like parking lot driving or slow maneuvering. I'll tell you from experience it is a nice transformation. Makes the bike feel much smoother.
I don't think it was as much of an issue with the lower displacement 88's, possibly because of better overall driveline harmonics? But as soon as the 96's hit the market - so did the bitchin!
Harley added the IDS as original eguipment in "08", with retrofit kits available for the "07"s (at additional cost, around $300). The "09"s and later have the system designed right into the new wheels.
Another thing - if you don't think you need to change the above - you're better off with the original pulley. It's simpler and has no inherent problems.
I personally think it's worth it though.
The IDS dampens the power pulses during initial clutch let out, and somewhat between shifts. It'll also smooth out the driveline lash while riding at low RPM's, like parking lot driving or slow maneuvering. I'll tell you from experience it is a nice transformation. Makes the bike feel much smoother.
I don't think it was as much of an issue with the lower displacement 88's, possibly because of better overall driveline harmonics? But as soon as the 96's hit the market - so did the bitchin!
Harley added the IDS as original eguipment in "08", with retrofit kits available for the "07"s (at additional cost, around $300). The "09"s and later have the system designed right into the new wheels.
Another thing - if you don't think you need to change the above - you're better off with the original pulley. It's simpler and has no inherent problems.
I personally think it's worth it though.
Last edited by Scorpion07; May 10, 2010 at 07:38 PM.
Road Master
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From: USA
Jimski,
The IDS dampens the power pulses during initial clutch let out, and somewhat between shifts. It'll also smooth out the driveline lash while riding at low RPM's, like parking lot driving or slow maneuvering. I'll tell you from experience it is a nice transformation. Makes the bike feel much smoother.
I don't think it was as much of an issue with the lower displacement 88's, possibly because of better overall driveline harmonics? But as soon as the 96's hit the market - so did the bitchin!
Harley added the IDS as original eguipment in "08", with retrofit kits available for the "07"s (at additional cost, around $300). The "09"s and later have the system designed right into the new wheels.
Another thing - if you don't think you need to change the above - you're better off with the original pulley. It's simpler and has no inherent problems. I personally think it's worth it though.
The IDS dampens the power pulses during initial clutch let out, and somewhat between shifts. It'll also smooth out the driveline lash while riding at low RPM's, like parking lot driving or slow maneuvering. I'll tell you from experience it is a nice transformation. Makes the bike feel much smoother.
I don't think it was as much of an issue with the lower displacement 88's, possibly because of better overall driveline harmonics? But as soon as the 96's hit the market - so did the bitchin!
Harley added the IDS as original eguipment in "08", with retrofit kits available for the "07"s (at additional cost, around $300). The "09"s and later have the system designed right into the new wheels.
Another thing - if you don't think you need to change the above - you're better off with the original pulley. It's simpler and has no inherent problems. I personally think it's worth it though.
Thanks, Scorpion7, for taking the time to answer my question. I don't feel the need for one now. I'll see how the scoot behaves after the SE 255 installation. I can't justify spending that kind of money unless I really do have a problem. Especially since some people have experienced problems with the IDS after having one installed.
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From: NoCal
The question then becomes did the originally installing dealer not put in the inner spacer or did it fall out during a tire change by the other dealer and not get re-installed? If chirping sound was not coming from bike prior to original install and tire change #1 then probably fell out during tire change #2. How many miles ridden since tire install #2? and when did you notice chirping sound?
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Tourer
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From: Charlotte, NC
I've got about 3,000 miles on the second tire. I started noticing the chirping on a return trip at around 2,500 miles after the second tire install. It may have been chirping before that, but with the Bub 7s, I wouldn't have noticed it if it was a less obvious chirp.
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From: NoCal
I would bet the during the second tire change 3K miles ago the spacer fell out and they did not notice it or forgot to put back in. Going thru tire change #1 and whatever miles you had put on between the IDS install and tire change #1, those accumulative miles would have caused some sort of problem before now (after the 2nd tire change). At least that is my thinking.