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Old Jun 7, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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I have a 1999 Ultra Classic it clearly states Dot 5 fluid only this bike has never had the brakes flushed. The other day I decided to do so, when I opened the master cylinder the fluid was perfectly clean (you could see the bottom of the cup) but the fluid was a clearish amber color, and dot 5 is purple,I ask the mechanics at the shop and they said it is purple when it comes out of the bottle but it eventually turns clearish, have any of you had the (purple) dot 5 fluid turn clear. Dot 5 fluid is colored to distinguish it from the others. Any help would be great.

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Purple DOT 5 will eventually turn amber
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 08:27 AM
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If you are unsure of what DOT # your brake fluid is do this:

Dip out a small amount from your master cylinder using a 1 ounce medicine cup. Now add some of the brake fluid that you think it might be to the cup. If the fluid "curdles" then it isn't that DOT #. If all looks well and it doesn't look like you are mixing oil and water, then you are good to go with it.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 08:31 AM
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Purple DOT 5 will eventually turn amber
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by dawg
Purple DOT 5 will eventually turn amber
Agreed.

I cannot believe that the fluid has never been changed! While DOT5 will indeed turn amber after a couple of years, it will carry on deteriorating and the brakes get steadily worst, with accumulating water in the system.

In any event it seems a thorough flushing of the system is in order, plus a clean up of the calipers etc to ensure all is tip-top.
 
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Old Jun 8, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Agreed.

I cannot believe that the fluid has never been changed! While DOT5 will indeed turn amber after a couple of years, it will carry on deteriorating and the brakes get steadily worst, with accumulating water in the system.

In any event it seems a thorough flushing of the system is in order, plus a clean up of the calipers etc to ensure all is tip-top.
Wasn't the benefit of DOT 5 over 4 the fact that it doesn't absorb water? Not saying it should never be changed, but I thought that was the point of it. I was wrong that one time before.... lol
 
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Originally Posted by M Coats
I have a 1999 Ultra Classic it clearly states Dot 5 fluid only this bike has never had the brakes flushed. The other day I decided to do so, when I opened the master cylinder the fluid was perfectly clean (you could see the bottom of the cup) but the fluid was a clearish amber color, and dot 5 is purple,I ask the mechanics at the shop and they said it is purple when it comes out of the bottle but it eventually turns clearish, have any of you had the (purple) dot 5 fluid turn clear. Dot 5 fluid is colored to distinguish it from the others. Any help would be great.

Mike
The Dot 5 in my 04 Softail is clear and the replacement Dot 5 in my bottle is clear. I decided to change it about 30K and it was clear and clean like you said. Best I can tell it was never changed before. I doubt if I do it again. Have replace front and brake pads twice and the rotor once back at 30K when I changed fluid. The front rotor was below minimum thickness and rear was at minimum. I had the extended warrent thru dealer who replace pads at 28K. He failed to replace rotors. It was the 3rd time he failed to do work as stated and I did not renew warrenty.

Stop the train!!! When I pour some into my hand it is slightly purple. When I look into the top of the master cylinders it looked clear and it still does. I can clearly see bottom When I dumped it I did not notice in my garage. Dumped the old in a can since I had the mastercylinder off putting fwd controls on and realy did not notice it then. Did they not put the purple die in it back in 04????
 

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Wasn't the benefit of DOT 5 over 4 the fact that it doesn't absorb water? Not saying it should never be changed, but I thought that was the point of it. I was wrong that one time before.... lol
You are quite right, DOT5 is not hygroscopic (doesn't absorb water). However water from the atmosphere still gets into the brake system. Unlike the other DOTs, which absorb it, the water lies around where it can find a quiet spot! As the brake pucks wear and the pistons stay further out, the fluid level drops and is replaced by air, in which there is a proportion of air. Some bicycles have closed or sealed hydraulic systems, but autos and our bikes are not sealed against air getting in. So one of the reasons for bleeding brakes every couple of years is to flush out that water.
 
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