2010 Limited - Overheating
Road Master
Joined: Jul 2006
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From: Near Richmond VA.
IF I understand your question. No, when EITMS cuts off the rear cylinder you get no visual indication it has done so. You will notice a difference in the idle though. As far as activating it, it does have a visual indicator. Green flashes for on and red flashes when it is off.
Stellar HDF Member
Joined: Apr 2007
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From: The 9th Island
Correct. There is no visual indication as to when EITMS has shutdown the rear cylinder.
Mine activates all the time and I do not worry about it. I do plan on getting an oil cooler finally though next spring.
Mine activates all the time and I do not worry about it. I do plan on getting an oil cooler finally though next spring.
Seasoned HDF Member
Joined: Jan 2007
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From: anacoco, la
understand that what you are doing is enabling/disabling the eitms. you are not activating or deactivating it. two different things. you can not activate the system, the ecm will do that when certain parameters have been met, et 285* and engine at idle. as soon as you give it some throttle, the rear cylinder will then kick in again. so if you are sitting in stop and go traffic, don't blip your throttle.....
Extreme HDF Member
Joined: Dec 2007
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From: Illinois
Mine is activated and has never went into the shut down mode. Last year on a trip to Key West in daily temps of 100 to 105. I got stuck in a accident pileup for about an hour moving one car length stopping for a bit and moving one car length again.
This year I went through Death Valley in the hot afternoon. Only in the 120's and through the desert south west in their 105 plus daily heat wave. Again no shut down at stops.
I do have an oil cooler, Stage I intake, stock mufflers and the Cobra Fi2000r programmer which works downstream of the HD ECM and bumps the AFR to 12.1 to one. That keeps the TC96 within tolerable operating temps.
Total cost of the mods was under $500. Yields 50 mpg also.
This year I went through Death Valley in the hot afternoon. Only in the 120's and through the desert south west in their 105 plus daily heat wave. Again no shut down at stops.
I do have an oil cooler, Stage I intake, stock mufflers and the Cobra Fi2000r programmer which works downstream of the HD ECM and bumps the AFR to 12.1 to one. That keeps the TC96 within tolerable operating temps.
Total cost of the mods was under $500. Yields 50 mpg also.
Elite HDF Member
Joined: Nov 2010
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From: Simi Valley, CA
Mine is activated and has never went into the shut down mode. Last year on a trip to Key West in daily temps of 100 to 105. I got stuck in a accident pileup for about an hour moving one car length stopping for a bit and moving one car length again.
This year I went through Death Valley in the hot afternoon. Only in the 120's and through the desert south west in their 105 plus daily heat wave. Again no shut down at stops.
I do have an oil cooler, Stage I intake, stock mufflers and the Cobra Fi2000r programmer which works downstream of the HD ECM and bumps the AFR to 12.1 to one. That keeps the TC96 within tolerable operating temps.
Total cost of the mods was under $500. Yields 50 mpg also.
This year I went through Death Valley in the hot afternoon. Only in the 120's and through the desert south west in their 105 plus daily heat wave. Again no shut down at stops.
I do have an oil cooler, Stage I intake, stock mufflers and the Cobra Fi2000r programmer which works downstream of the HD ECM and bumps the AFR to 12.1 to one. That keeps the TC96 within tolerable operating temps.
Total cost of the mods was under $500. Yields 50 mpg also.
120 degree temps and the EITMS not kicking in could only mean two things: The system isn't enabled, or it isn't working properly.
50 MPG with a 12.1:1 AFR? Highly unlikely.
Last edited by 2black1s; Sep 11, 2011 at 04:43 PM.
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From: Illinois
2black1s - I'm retired so I can go anytime. If you want to follow me next season to Death Valley say July or Aug. You can see for your self. Since your such a doubter.
From my house in Illinois to Winnipeg Canada it never was under 50 mpg. My son rode his 06 Street Bob and we had identical fill ups and on occasion I was a tenth less than his. The average was for the 3,000 mile trip.
On our PCH trip my mileage ran from 42 to 60 for 6,000 miles. That trip average 50 mpg.
Two things to keep in mind the cooler the motor runs the more efficient it is in terms of power and mileage. A cooler charge expands more and that is what propels the bike. Lower octane burns more than higher octane. No gas burns completely before it goes out the exhaust but the lower the octane the more it burns. Why do you think that they have 85 octane in the mountains?
The oil cooler, 12.1 to 1 AFR AND 87 octane gas yields those results on my 10 Ultra with 18,000 miles on it.
Oh, and I know how to activate the system and leave it activated.
My son was so impressed that he bought an Ultra when we got back from the last trip. His Street Bob is sitting neglected in my garage since. He hasn't bothered to come back from Chicago to pick it up.
From my house in Illinois to Winnipeg Canada it never was under 50 mpg. My son rode his 06 Street Bob and we had identical fill ups and on occasion I was a tenth less than his. The average was for the 3,000 mile trip.
On our PCH trip my mileage ran from 42 to 60 for 6,000 miles. That trip average 50 mpg.
Two things to keep in mind the cooler the motor runs the more efficient it is in terms of power and mileage. A cooler charge expands more and that is what propels the bike. Lower octane burns more than higher octane. No gas burns completely before it goes out the exhaust but the lower the octane the more it burns. Why do you think that they have 85 octane in the mountains?
The oil cooler, 12.1 to 1 AFR AND 87 octane gas yields those results on my 10 Ultra with 18,000 miles on it.
Oh, and I know how to activate the system and leave it activated.
My son was so impressed that he bought an Ultra when we got back from the last trip. His Street Bob is sitting neglected in my garage since. He hasn't bothered to come back from Chicago to pick it up.
Last edited by lh4x4; Sep 12, 2011 at 05:05 PM.
Intermediate
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 37
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From: Indiana
My 2010 RK shuts down alot in 90+ temps but I quit worrying about it.
I use an oil temp gauge to keep an eye on it and its 250 or so when I stop bike and shut engine off. So it runs a little hot but I got 25K miles on that engine and it screams for more. But that's only on the hot days.
I use an oil temp gauge to keep an eye on it and its 250 or so when I stop bike and shut engine off. So it runs a little hot but I got 25K miles on that engine and it screams for more. But that's only on the hot days.
Road Master
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 762
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From: Fort Bragg, NC Area
Mine kicks in all the time. The reason for EITMS is not for overheating as much as is to reduce heat to the rider's legs. It is a comfort thing. If it was to prevent the bike form overheating, HD would not let you turn it off.
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