Red Light Camera
Road Warrior
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From: 501
As I understood, their is supposed to be one second of amber/yellow for every ten mph on said street. I supposedly rolled a stop on my scoot right in front of a motor cop. I did stop, but took off right after without a foot touching the ground. I argued the point and he let me go, that time.
Back in the day, I ran from many more than I ever got stopped by. These days, they don't consider your having stopped unless both feet have touched the ground, or a three count after stopping. I guess I still roll stop signs! Lol
aka Bob
Back in the day, I ran from many more than I ever got stopped by. These days, they don't consider your having stopped unless both feet have touched the ground, or a three count after stopping. I guess I still roll stop signs! Lol
aka Bob
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From: north of Daytona
As I understood, their is supposed to be one second of amber/yellow for every ten mph on said street. I supposedly rolled a stop on my scoot right in front of a motor cop. I did stop, but took off right after without a foot touching the ground. I argued the point and he let me go, that time.
Back in the day, I ran from many more than I ever got stopped by. These days, they don't consider your having stopped unless both feet have touched the ground, or a three count after stopping. I guess I still roll stop signs! Lol
aka Bob
Back in the day, I ran from many more than I ever got stopped by. These days, they don't consider your having stopped unless both feet have touched the ground, or a three count after stopping. I guess I still roll stop signs! Lol
aka Bob
Two people killed in one car, red light runner killed also. How did the camera help?
Then, what I am waiting to see....is all of the jerks that pull INTO the intersection....waiting for the light to turn yellow so they can ZIP accross 'just before'
the light turns red.....fuuny to see their face when the citation arrives.
Red light cameras equal a revenue maker. If you run a red light, no matter if there
is a camera or not, someone could die. Might need 'stop sign' cameras next. Why not?
chuck
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From: State College, PA
Really? The jurisdictions I've had contact with didn't work that way. The citation is issued to the owner of the vehicle who then has the option to pay it, or take a hearing at which they must give information regarding who WAS driving, or pay the fine based on "permitting the violation"... Sounds quite a bit more fair the way they do it where you are. I've seen hundreds of those photos, I don't see how they can even tell who's driving in most of them.
Road Master
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From: Goodyear, Az
Really? The jurisdictions I've had contact with didn't work that way. The citation is issued to the owner of the vehicle who then has the option to pay it, or take a hearing at which they must give information regarding who WAS driving, or pay the fine based on "permitting the violation"... Sounds quite a bit more fair the way they do it where you are. I've seen hundreds of those photos, I don't see how they can even tell who's driving in most of them.
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From: Northern Alabama
As you said it varies by state and municipality. If the regulation is written so that the vehicle owner is responsible for the operation of the vehicle, the owner will pay. Simple as that. BTW, I have ZERO sympathy for anyone that runs red lights. If you want to know why, just ask me about my 27 YO daughter with a TBI becouse of one who did.
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From: north of Daytona
As you said it varies by state and municipality. If the regulation is written so that the vehicle owner is responsible for the operation of the vehicle, the owner will pay. Simple as that. BTW, I have ZERO sympathy for anyone that runs red lights. If you want to know why, just ask me about my 27 YO daughter with a TBI becouse of one who did.
I don't want to hear about all the folks killed by a red light runner...tragic as the cases may be...BUT: How would a camera have helped?
Once you go through the light and have your picture taken, you have alreadyt hit (possibly) someone. The camera is for all the people that MAKE IT.
Run a stop sign.....cheaper that way.
chuck
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From: Northern Alabama
I don't want to hear about all the folks killed by a red light runner...tragic as the cases may be...BUT: How would a camera have helped? Once you go through the light and have your picture taken, you have alreadyt hit (possibly) someone. The camera is for all the people that MAKE IT. Run a stop sign.....cheaper that way.
chuck
chuck
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From: SoCal
In California Photo-equipped intersections, the money is made on improper right-hand turns, not from running red lights. The courts (3-judge appelate panel in Orange County) have recently ruled that the red-light video (yes, it's filming you) and photos are hearsay evidence. This means that challenging the ticket will get you off, but it will cost you two days off, one to plead in court and one to appear in court. Of course LE is not running commercials or anything to let motorists know it!
http://www.nctimes.com/news/opinion/...0161616e1.html
http://www.nctimes.com/news/opinion/...0161616e1.html
Last edited by Firetender; Jul 7, 2010 at 03:56 PM.
Road Warrior
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From: State College, PA
Now that wouldn't be the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals would it? Keep in mind they are the most overturned court in the country. Or is this still on the state level?
