Car tire ???
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I don't know where your getting the 75% loss of contact patch info but everyone who has made the switch has claimed better traction and better braking...Like I said in my earlier post the nay sayers are sitting on a bench saying it can't be done as people are riding by doing it...Also the reason people are switching is because more R&D goes automobile tires and they are much better products...Bike tires are still mostly the same as my Dad's generation rode on...We(bike riders) don't make up enough of the population to warrent the money they spend on R&D for car tires if you want a better product you have to get it...Because they are not going to make it for us...and you don't need to look any further than Dunlop for that...Oh a problem with the 407's we'll just flip them and rename them 408 perfect...Sorry friend but the Emperor Wears No Clothes and I'm shouting it from the rooftops...They tell you it's better and safer because it's designed for you bike and you'll gobble them up at the inflated price but your paying for twenty+ year old technology...
Very well said and appreciated an open mind. I have to try it and see for myself. Thanks
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You are in for a barrage of different opinions and plenty from those that have never tried running car tires.I used to many years ago and never once had a any issues.Actually never knew of any until the new breed of skiddish riders started assuming it was not right.Back then there were no radial tires and the rubber quality was a lot less still never had a problem.Road racing you might want to stay away from car tires for obvious reasons,cruising is another whole story.
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quote=dailydriver;6986642]i don't know where your getting the 75% loss of contact patch info but everyone who has made the switch has claimed better traction and better braking...like i said in my earlier post the nay sayers are sitting on a bench saying it can't be done as people are riding by doing it...also the reason people are switching is because more r&d goes automobile tires and they are much better products...bike tires are still mostly the same as my dad's generation rode on...we(bike riders) don't make up enough of the population to warrent the money they spend on r&d for car tires if you want a better product you have to get it...because they are not going to make it for us...and you don't need to look any further than dunlop for that...oh a problem with the 407's we'll just flip them and rename them 408 perfect...sorry friend but the emperor wears no clothes and i'm shouting it from the rooftops...they tell you it's better and safer because it's designed for you bike and you'll gobble them up at the inflated price but your paying for twenty+ year old technology...[/quote]
amen brother....shout...
amen brother....shout...
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Well,,,, it seems all the new technology is going towards racing tires...they come out with new names, new looks, but never longer lasting???? I would have to agree that most of the R&D is for car tires and Motorcycle RACING tires.
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The thesis being peddled here that car tyres are state of the art, but bike tyres are twenty years old in design is the sort of nonsense that gives the internet a bad name.
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Is this coming from a guy who drives on the wrong side of the road? <just kidding>
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And to prove it sig pic is my Glide resting en France, on our way home from Poland this May. We have also shipped the same bike across 'the pond' and ridden it in the US and Canada! 
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And by the way i look at tire website sir and can't find anything to get me excited about MC tires yet...I may be missing something so i will politely ask you to please show me what to look at.
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G, i am not saying there is no tech and R&D going towards MC tires just that most of it is going to sports bike and racing tires. It seems that they are adding a little tech stuff like claiming to have a better compound in the center and BS like that but the tires don't last much longer....What gives...it's like they only want to make tires that last 6k-12k miles to ensure that we buy them often. I have yet to run a tire long that didn't cup, or wear out quickly...best handling one was the Avon and lasted 6500 miles hell that's hwy robbry...They need to make some TRUE touring tires that we can get real mileage out of.... not some BS about compound being a little harder in the middle....Until then i will keep changing them when they wear out....I will be trading my bike within the next 12 months and on the next one, tires will be a major concern.
And by the way i look at tire website sir and can't find anything to get me excited about MC tires yet...I may be missing something so i will politely ask you to please show me what to look at.
And by the way i look at tire website sir and can't find anything to get me excited about MC tires yet...I may be missing something so i will politely ask you to please show me what to look at.
So I don't know what R&D funds are spend on MC touring tires but I haven't experienced much improvement in handling and longevity with mine for the last 15 years.
I'm just sayin'