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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:06 PM
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So I sent an oil sample from the FLHTK to Blackstone Labs for analysis. There's an awful lot of (what I consider) BS on the various Harley forums about what sort of oil you "should" use, and how often it needs to be changed. And then there's the whole "oh noes, it runs so HOT" thing. I'm hoping to put all that to rest.

I was in a hurry, so I drained the oil cold. I think that explains some of the high mineral counts. The oil was in for 5,600 miles, and took me to Eureka Springs and back, as well as to Florida and back. There was an awful lot of highway running, a good thousand + miles of high rpm backroad riding, and the remainder was commuting (and being stuck in traffic) and normal cruising. The oil was in the motor for less than 4 weeks. Ambient temperatures ranged from the low 80s to 105. My air filter was filthy, so I think that explains the elevated silicon number.

I'm a little concerned about the viscosity rise, but I'll wait for my next sample to start panicking.

 

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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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I'm waiting for my collection kit from Blackstone. I've captured about a half quart of used oil from my last change. Will be interesting to see how they compare...
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:39 PM
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Here's a link to one I just did with similar total mileage on my bike (only mine is an '08 I wish I could get 20K a year on it but I can't

 

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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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Back when I was in the Army our mechanic would do POL samples of tranny and oil on the hummers. We beat these things to death. They would not change a Fluid at all till the POL testers said to. That is sand, water, mud, pretty much anything you can think of. Oil stayed clean for a long time. Almost like changing your oil in your car at 3000 miles. They have had us tricked for years. I run Mobil 1 in my chevy and change it every once a year. I do only drive it about 5-6 thousand a year though. Just my 2 cents.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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If your concerned callblackstone and they can give you more information. I did on my diesel and I found out the oil I used had more additives of a certain type and that why a couple things were high. They will talk your ear off.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 06:14 PM
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May I suggest next time take the sample when the oil is warm, this way the particles are more suspended in the oil and the readings probably be as concentrated as a cold sample when everything has settled to the bottom.
I also noticed this is your first sample, Ive been monitoring oil samples for a long time and the initial test usually reads higher, once a baseline is established the future readings should drop.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 06:17 PM
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May I suggest next time take the sample when the oil is warm, this way the particles are more suspended in the oil and the readings probably be as concentrated as a cold sample when everything has settled to the bottom.
I also noticed this is your first sample, Ive been monitoring oil samples for a long time and the initial test usually reads higher, once a baseline is established the future readings should drop.
Yeah, like I said, I was in a hurry and didn't have time to run the bike the day I did the swap (and it was another 105 degree day, and I didn't feel like f-ing with a hot bike). I'm going to run a sample at every change just to monitor things, but other than the viscosity, I'm pleased with what I see here.
 
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Old Jul 14, 2010 | 06:27 PM
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I'd like to see a similar sample, with the same conditions with conventional HD 20/50.
 
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Originally Posted by 18BKLR
Back when I was in the Army our mechanic would do POL samples of tranny and oil on the hummers. We beat these things to death. They would not change a Fluid at all till the POL testers said to. That is sand, water, mud, pretty much anything you can think of. Oil stayed clean for a long time. Almost like changing your oil in your car at 3000 miles. They have had us tricked for years. I run Mobil 1 in my chevy and change it every once a year. I do only drive it about 5-6 thousand a year though. Just my 2 cents.
If youre going to do that I would have the oil tested periodically so you will catch anything going south before its too late.

Im doing an extended oil drain test on diesel buses, Im doubling the change interval from 3k -10k to 6k-20k. Im using a 4 micron filter and the oil results are almost the same as new oil and 10x better than oil changed at regular intervals w/o the 4 micron filter. This is on dino oil too.
 
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Bookmarking so I can look up at home later. How much for the test?
 
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