Bad Fuel?
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Try some "Gas dry", sounds like water in the tank. Octane boost does nothing for this situation. Use a brand name 93 octane gas from a high volume station, assures you of fresh gas with no water.
You could also have a spark plug misfiring, or loose spark plug wire. Go with the Harley stock plugs for best performance.
You could also have a spark plug misfiring, or loose spark plug wire. Go with the Harley stock plugs for best performance.
The BLEND:
One of the first things that a customer will notice at the pump is the variety of choices offered. In most cases, a dispenser will offer several grades of gas -- sometimes as many as five -- each with a different octane rating. The desired octane rating is usually chosen simply by pushing a button. Does this mean that there are five different underground tanks feeding into that dispenser, each offering a different grade of gas? That's not usually the case. In fact, the dispenser can produce as many grades as it wants from as few as two underground tanks, as long as one tank contains the highest grade of octane available at that station and the other contains the lowest. The grades are blended together at the pump -- not unlike the way you'd blend gin and vermouth to make a martini -- producing a kind of octane cocktail. The precise proportion in which the grades are blended determines the octane of the gas that enters the customer's tank.
This feat of gas pump bartending is performed by something called a blend valve. This valve has inputs consisting of two grades of gasoline, each from different tanks. A single, moveable barrier called a shoe is connected to both in such a way that it can be moved across the inputs with a single motor-driven ratchet. As the ratchet opens one valve, it closes the other valve in precise but opposite proportion. This means that when one valve is, for example, 90 percent open, the other valve is 10 percent open, creating a mixture that consists of 90 percent of one octane and 10 percent of the other. By shifting the ratchet back and forth, the blend valve can produce any octane of gas, ranging from the highest to the lowest grades stored in the tanks -- and all octanes in between.
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Okay, thanks everyone. This is what I have learned.
1. Never put e85 in the tank.
2. Gas Dry did not work.
3. Take it to the dealer, probably warranty work (hopefully)
4. I didn't know that about the blended tanks
1. Never put e85 in the tank.
2. Gas Dry did not work.
3. Take it to the dealer, probably warranty work (hopefully)
4. I didn't know that about the blended tanks
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Very interesting read and being e skeptic I would love to see supporting documentation?
Honestly nothing assures no water. Kinda long but an interesting read about how gas and the octane levels are achieved.
The BLEND:
One of the first things that a customer will notice at the pump is the variety of choices offered. In most cases, a dispenser will offer several grades of gas -- sometimes as many as five -- each with a different octane rating. The desired octane rating is usually chosen simply by pushing a button. Does this mean that there are five different underground tanks feeding into that dispenser, each offering a different grade of gas? That's not usually the case. In fact, the dispenser can produce as many grades as it wants from as few as two underground tanks, as long as one tank contains the highest grade of octane available at that station and the other contains the lowest. The grades are blended together at the pump -- not unlike the way you'd blend gin and vermouth to make a martini -- producing a kind of octane cocktail. The precise proportion in which the grades are blended determines the octane of the gas that enters the customer's tank.
This feat of gas pump bartending is performed by something called a blend valve. This valve has inputs consisting of two grades of gasoline, each from different tanks. A single, moveable barrier called a shoe is connected to both in such a way that it can be moved across the inputs with a single motor-driven ratchet. As the ratchet opens one valve, it closes the other valve in precise but opposite proportion. This means that when one valve is, for example, 90 percent open, the other valve is 10 percent open, creating a mixture that consists of 90 percent of one octane and 10 percent of the other. By shifting the ratchet back and forth, the blend valve can produce any octane of gas, ranging from the highest to the lowest grades stored in the tanks -- and all octanes in between.
The BLEND:
One of the first things that a customer will notice at the pump is the variety of choices offered. In most cases, a dispenser will offer several grades of gas -- sometimes as many as five -- each with a different octane rating. The desired octane rating is usually chosen simply by pushing a button. Does this mean that there are five different underground tanks feeding into that dispenser, each offering a different grade of gas? That's not usually the case. In fact, the dispenser can produce as many grades as it wants from as few as two underground tanks, as long as one tank contains the highest grade of octane available at that station and the other contains the lowest. The grades are blended together at the pump -- not unlike the way you'd blend gin and vermouth to make a martini -- producing a kind of octane cocktail. The precise proportion in which the grades are blended determines the octane of the gas that enters the customer's tank.
This feat of gas pump bartending is performed by something called a blend valve. This valve has inputs consisting of two grades of gasoline, each from different tanks. A single, moveable barrier called a shoe is connected to both in such a way that it can be moved across the inputs with a single motor-driven ratchet. As the ratchet opens one valve, it closes the other valve in precise but opposite proportion. This means that when one valve is, for example, 90 percent open, the other valve is 10 percent open, creating a mixture that consists of 90 percent of one octane and 10 percent of the other. By shifting the ratchet back and forth, the blend valve can produce any octane of gas, ranging from the highest to the lowest grades stored in the tanks -- and all octanes in between.
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DO NOT USE E85!!!! that is 85% ethanol.These bikes are not designed for that. Not sure where you live. Here in Texas the Top Tier stations have a 93 octane premium. I noticed while traveling most midwest states have a 91 octane premium. I would use one of those.
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I found out what the problem was. I had installed FL-XiEDs from Nightrider.com. They went bad. Before taking the bike to the dealer, I took the XiEDs off and took the bike for a ride. It ran fine, the XiEDs were causing the problem. I just emailed nightrider about it, I'll let you know what they say about the XiEDs going bad and if they are going to replace them or give me a refund or hang me out to dry.
By the way BBStacker, nice picture.
By the way BBStacker, nice picture.
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