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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 05:51 PM
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Okay stock Ultra Limited:

I am getting ready to buy the Zippers Max Flow Stage 1 kit. I want to put pipes on it and was thinking of going with the carriage works twisters or maybe the bassanis. The question I have is :


With doing the Stage 1, what happens if I do just the mufflers with this and "not the tuner"? I am thinking I can get by w/o the tuner but want to make sure that if I do this I won't be wasting my time. I would love to do the head pipes but don't think I can do that with the amount I got right now.

Unless anyone can point me in a different direction and why?

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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 06:10 PM
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I would go with the herd on this one, and go with what is tried tested and proven.
It's up to you to figure out what will work and what will not.
I have no idea of what a "Zippers stage 1" is, other than maybe an aircleaner,
as you never said?
I've never heard of carriage works twisters... either...
BTW you never said what year your bike is...
That would help...
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:43 PM
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Sorry it's a 2011. I have never bought brand new. Probably won't again but was too itchy for this one.

Stage 1 I am assuming is the air cleaner
Stage 2 is the Mufflers
Stage 3
Stage 4
etc.....
Correct?

Being a 2011 I am assuming the header pipes w/ the catalyst converters would need to go eventually but
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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For an efi bike, stage 1 would be freer flowing mufflers. and air cleaner plus a tuner of some kind to richen the fuel mixture.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by armyhdrider
Sorry it's a 2011. I have never bought brand new. Probably won't again but was too itchy for this one.

Stage 1 I am assuming is the air cleaner
Stage 2 is the Mufflers
Stage 3
Stage 4
etc.....
Correct?

Being a 2011 I am assuming the header pipes w/ the catalyst converters would need to go eventually but
stage 1 is generally air cleaner and mufflers.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:51 PM
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So if I stick with the Zippers Max Flow air cleaner and mufflers I won't need a tuner?

Will I get anything different if I went true duals and changed the head pipes? I know if I do change the head pipes I will need a tuner.

I am already @ 1100 miles and it's just at 3 weeks old :-) But it's TOO QUIET!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 07:57 PM
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If you allow more flow with an air cleaner and muffler upgrade you will need to add more fuel with a tuner or a ecm flash from your dealer. Otherwise, you burn too lean and hole your pistons.
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 08:00 PM
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Okay with that being said:

Do you have a recommendation so I can price it all up?

Thanks in advance
 
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PC-V will be the economical way to go,w/the A/C and your choice of slip-ons, plus a new headpipe, as I think you should probably ditch that "catalytic converter in the head pipe" if you can, as that will create much un-needed heat for you, and no doubt you will regret if later. JMO.

Oh, congrats on the "Brand New Bike too"!!
 
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Old Sep 17, 2010 | 08:07 PM
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At very minimum, I would have a Stage 1 flash to the ECM, the PC V would fit it to future upgrades.
 
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