TTS Mastertune -Please post your DIY experience
Road Warrior
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From: Mayfield Ohio
No you can't v-tune without o2 sensors
Stellar HDF Member
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From: Vancouver Island B.C.
TTS is actually the an upgraded version of the SERT, with more tools in the box. If you mean the SESPT, I still think the TTS has more features and is easier to use.
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From: Vancouver Island B.C.
You can get a kit to add the o2 sensors and then you just need the 18mm bungs in your pipes.
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Tourer
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Not that hard, there are some on this site that are very good with it. TTS is great especially if you either don't have access to a good tuner or don't want to spend money on a Dyno. I have learned a lot from several folks here.
Tourer
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From: new bedford, ma
Steve used to make the sert for Harley but something happened and they parted ways. He now makes the TTS using the insider knowledge he already had. Talked with him recently and he just released the 2011 calibrations. This is the way I will be going as soon as I have the funds.
Road Warrior
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From: currently an Okie
Confusion factor
How can you get decent results from a control loop that is using a narrowband sensor, that won't operate in the range you want to control to?
I know this sounds confrontational, but it's not. The above question is what confuses me about TTS. I have heard a lot of good things about TTS, but as a control engineer, it doesn't make sense to me.
I would appreciate any information that would enlighten me.
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Road Warrior
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From: SC
OK, here's what confuses me about the TTS. You've got to have the narrow band O2 sensors, which are worthless in the AFR area we all want to run in. So what good are the O2 sensors unless you are running14+AFR?
How can you get decent results from a control loop that is using a narrowband sensor, that won't operate in the range you want to control to?
I know this sounds confrontational, but it's not. The above question is what confuses me about TTS. I have heard a lot of good things about TTS, but as a control engineer, it doesn't make sense to me.
I would appreciate any information that would enlighten me.
How can you get decent results from a control loop that is using a narrowband sensor, that won't operate in the range you want to control to?
I know this sounds confrontational, but it's not. The above question is what confuses me about TTS. I have heard a lot of good things about TTS, but as a control engineer, it doesn't make sense to me.
I would appreciate any information that would enlighten me.
Road Captain
Joined: Jun 2007
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I just spent 3 weeks tuning my 2011 bike with TTS. It was a learning experience let me tell you....
My advice, if you decide to only V-Tune, and you install a camshaft, make sure it is one of the cams that TTS has a pre-built map for.
Trying to tune around a non TTS loaded cam is a pain.
It can be done, but it takes alot of work. You are better off just installing an SE cam per the TTS Delphi Cal chart, and go from there.
After all I went through, I do have to say, it is a wonderful tuning device, and it can make the motorcycle absolutely RIP!!! But, that comes with many, many tanks of gas and many days of scratching your head.
Also, I found the 2011 (044) cal files did not give me a good tune, the 2010 (009) gave me the best tune.
My $.02
My advice, if you decide to only V-Tune, and you install a camshaft, make sure it is one of the cams that TTS has a pre-built map for.
Trying to tune around a non TTS loaded cam is a pain.
It can be done, but it takes alot of work. You are better off just installing an SE cam per the TTS Delphi Cal chart, and go from there.
After all I went through, I do have to say, it is a wonderful tuning device, and it can make the motorcycle absolutely RIP!!! But, that comes with many, many tanks of gas and many days of scratching your head.
Also, I found the 2011 (044) cal files did not give me a good tune, the 2010 (009) gave me the best tune.
My $.02