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I too have a 103 and I'm happy so far with the stage 1 I just completed. I'll be looking for cams in a year or so.
LMAO at the way this thread went. Seems like there is never an easy answer when it comes to motor upgrades. So many opinions on which cam to use or whether to just bolt in a cam or pull the heads and do head work.
For me, I'll want a "Bolt-in cam" that I can install with adjustable pushrods. Maybe we should start calling that upgrade a Stage 1.5.
Stage 2 would be cams with head work.
What do you guys think? Am I FOS? Don't be shy . . . let me know.
BTW, there is no need for the S&S easy start cams in the new 103s because these motors come with ACRs.
Putting some more thought into this, I'm thinking about making it next winter's project so that I can afford to get some headwork done at the same time.
I agree.Or just go with a cam thats pretty much a bolt in and requires no head work.You could run the Wood TW 5-6 straight up with no head work.just get a good dyno tune with a good tunning device.I would use the TTS!! Once you get into cams with later intake closes 40 & up your compression & heads need to be spot on, to make the bike come on cam ,& hit hard!!
My thoughts on cams are.For stock bikes keep the intake close under 40 if you want hp & tq without doing any head work.Once the cam intake reaches 40 the heads need to be cleaned up & cc'd to get the comp to match the cam.
Great choice for a stock motor,but you know what they say about SE stuff.It doesn't perform!!
I personally went with the Woods 6-6's and am very happy with TQ, HP, and performance. That being said, the SE 204's ARE PERFORMERS. I've seen quite a few dyno charts and they've all looked very strong to me.
If you're able to do the labor yourself I think it's a no brainer to have the heads done, you can get a decent street P&P done in the $3-400 range, you'll spend almost 1/2 that on adjustable pushrods which you don't need if you take the heads off. Cam selection is so dependent on your riding style that asking others for opinions is nearly useless, the guy who usually never revs above 3200 is going to tell you to go with SE 255s, that's why you have to talk to a reputable engine builder & tell him how you ride & where you want to have your power curve. There is no best cam for any engine, there may be a best cam though for a particular person & his riding style.
Last edited by DTTJGlide; Nov 20, 2010 at 08:16 PM.
If you're able to do the labor yourself I think it's a no brainer to have the heads done, you can get a decent street P&P done in the $3-400 range, you'll spend almost 1/2 that on adjustable pushrods which you don't need if you take the heads off. Cam selection is so dependent on your riding style that asking others for opinions is nearly useless, the guy who usually never revs above 3200 is going to tell you to go with SE 255s, that's why you have to talk to a reputable engine builder & tell him how you ride & where you want to have your power curve. There is no best cam for any engine, there may be a best cam though for a particular person & his riding style.
I agree cam choice depends on riding style.I like midrange cams myself ,because on the street thats where we do most of our riding in the middle rpms
I liked the Andrews 54H so much in my 08 SG with 103 that I bought another set for my CVO Fat Bob. 96HP 120TQ. Heads go to Bean at BigBoyz Tuesday.
Gary
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