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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Guys with the 103" and 110" said that the Dyno charts are almost the same for all 3 bikes, very little difference.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by bwana1
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They are not on different scales. The black hp and torque lines and the red hp and torque lines are supposed to intersect at 5250 rpm. On the dyno chart in question they intersect at ~ 4350 rpm.

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Look at the chart again. HP is on the left vertical axis and tq is on the right vertical axis. They are not using the same scale. HP tops out at 80 and tq tops out at 100. That is what Boogaloo is trying to convey.

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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 07:18 PM
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So, can someone explain the chart to those of us who can't figure it out ourselves? I don't see where they are ever equal.....?
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by W0ace
So, can someone explain the chart to those of us who can't figure it out ourselves? I don't see where they are ever equal.....?
That is a common thing. If you look at the hp vs the other side TQ you will see that one side is 20 points higher. If the scales were the same on both hp and tq they would cross at 5252. It is easier to read for most when the scales are the same but it does not have any effect on the numbers, it just makes the graph look more balanced. If the scales were the same the hp woul look even lower because the tq would be higher in comparison. the dyno teck can change the scaling with a stroke of the key board.
 
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Old Nov 28, 2010 | 08:11 PM
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It's kind of a weird graph. The hp peaks at 78, but the line looks closer to 75. Same for the tq. I'm not doubting the numbers, I'm just saying the chart looks a little weird. If it was stretched out and scaled the same for hp and tq, I think it would look much more familiar.

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 07:51 AM
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If you are not used to looking at that style chart it can be a little confusing.
I am not sure why anyone prints them that way.

Horsepower is on the left side axis and Torque is on the right side axis.
You will see that 80 is at the top on the left and 100 is at the top on the right.

If you go to 5252 on the bottom, then go up to the curves you will see that horsepower as read on the left and torque as read on the right are they same.

Take time and look at the sheet, it can be confusing, but if you stare at it long enough, you will see it. It might be easier if you print it out and touch it with your hands.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 09:29 AM
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OK guys, I finally see the light. If the right hand numbers went to only 80 at the top of the chart, the intersecting points of hp and torque would move right to 5252. Thanks for the enlightenment, but it is still a stupid f-----chart. BTW I was never questioning the numbers, just the chart.

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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 1sweetglide08
Was thinking about doing a 103...but the dealer said there wouldn't be much of a improvement unless I had headwork done for an additional $1,000. I think the cams will do for now...
Here is the difference, this chart shows it pretty clearly. The red lines are the TC-96 with SE-255 cams, the blue lines the same bike with the 103 kit added (no headwork at this point) and no other changes:

Dyno-96-to-103-small.jpg

The peak numbers don't change much, but there is a lot of space between the lines and the difference is obvious when riding. This also indirectly addresses the original "are my numbers about right?" question of the thread...
 
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Originally Posted by mtclassic
I would especially if you were running in 6th where you were out of steam. Drop down to 5th or even 4th and rev it up a bit. I can peg the speedo pretty fast in 5th but things happen pretty slowly in 6th.
If you read the post I was refering to, they were already at 90mph. By downshiftng at that speed, wouldn't that put the RPM's above the power curve of the 255's? I would think 90mph in 5th the R's are above the 4,000 or so RPM peak of the 255's?
 
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Old Nov 29, 2010 | 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 07FLHT
If you read the post I was refering to, they were already at 90mph. By downshiftng at that speed, wouldn't that put the RPM's above the power curve of the 255's? I would think 90mph in 5th the R's are above the 4,000 or so RPM peak of the 255's?
well on a 2010 or 2011 with stock gearing 90mph in 6th would be just a bit over 3400 rpm so dropping a gear would kick it up a notch or two, take into account speedo error and indicated 90mph would be even less rpm as 3400rpm would be 88.7mph actual. Even if the 255's sign off early they still do better then stock cams.
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