103/107 kit question
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The 95 big bore kit for the TC88 has been a proven performer and my understanding is it has also demonstrated excellent reliability. Can you expect the same level of reliability from the 103 (TC96) big bore kit? I'm looking for a hp/tq upgrade but not at the expense of reliability.
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The 95 big bore kit for the TC88 has been a proven performer and my understanding is it has also demonstrated excellent reliability. Can you expect the same level of reliability from the 103 (TC96) big bore kit? I'm looking for a hp/tq upgrade but not at the expense of reliability.
I have two earlier models, both performance builds; a 95" and a 107". Having built a few, if I had a later model, I would go with a 120R crate motor; less than $5K from Zanotti's. However, it still has the chitty crank and no Timken crank bearing so I would pull the top end and send the bottom end to Hoban to be "Hobanized" before I installed it.
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MY 107" kit from Fuel Moto is great The kit with everything you need except a cam spacer if needed for $1300.00. Bolted the kit up and loaded in the new map and it fired first hit of the button. IT sounds bad azz and runs strong. No need for a dyno if you already have a PCV as Feul Moto sends a new map with the kit.
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I may have missed it in the other posts, but I went with a SE 106 and 251 cams. Am also running V&H Monsters and Power Duals. In my chase of 100 hp I have finally run into a problem I hadn't anticipated, the likely need for some type of compression release. Have nothing now and it seems to be eating up starter clutches. I bet manual or electronic will be big bucks, and if I change the cams to the swing weights, it would include a new dyno run. I have already been aiming to put an oil cooler on, I hope by this summer. She also is dripping oil off the air filter, don't know if 103 would be more prone than the bigger bores. And as someone said, the rod connectors get a little suspect as the torque goes up.
Its good you are doing the homework and good luck
Its good you are doing the homework and good luck
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I may have missed it in the other posts, but I went with a SE 106 and 251 cams. Am also running V&H Monsters and Power Duals. In my chase of 100 hp I have finally run into a problem I hadn't anticipated, the likely need for some type of compression release. Have nothing now and it seems to be eating up starter clutches.
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Did you mean SE103? Can you elaborate on the compression problem? That cam has an intake close of 46* ABDC and, if heads are stock, haven't been decked and you are using flat top pistons and a stock head gasket, your compression shouild not be an issue. More details and there may be another and better way to address the problem.
As far as compression releases go, based on others' experiences with starting issues I had my mechanic add electronic CRs when he installed my SE 103 kit with 255 cams. So far no problems.
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Compression releases or not, the 255 with the late intake close is prone to ping; very high corrected and cranking compression. A cam swap maybe a quick fix for keith. The new SE254, from what I have seen, preforms better than the 255 with mucl less compression.
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S&S is what I meant guys, and I went to it last year about this time at about 10K miles, now at about 24 K. And I was at a dyno shop to get the ping out, you referred to. After the upgrade to the 106, from 96 ci with 251 cams and the super tuner, last summer the starter clutch was going out which the warranty took care of, and it seems to be doing the same thing again, especially when hot.
The dyno guy did fix the maps and she runs better as far as running, and may even start a little easier, but I think that clutch is doomes.
The dyno guy did fix the maps and she runs better as far as running, and may even start a little easier, but I think that clutch is doomes.
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Probably so, just checking becaus he did refere to a 103 later in his post.
Compression releases or not, the 255 with the late intake close is prone to ping; very high corrected and cranking compression. A cam swap maybe a quick fix for keith. The new SE254, from what I have seen, preforms better than the 25 with mucl less compression.
Compression releases or not, the 255 with the late intake close is prone to ping; very high corrected and cranking compression. A cam swap maybe a quick fix for keith. The new SE254, from what I have seen, preforms better than the 25 with mucl less compression.