No I will not be racing my Touring bike. They told me I needed to dyne it if I want to put a new pipe on it

 

i would use a canned map (from fuelmoto)for a basic stg1 it should be plenty accurate and no need or cost or abuse of a dyno.

 

At 500 miles your rings are either seated properly or they never will be. So, yes it's safe to dyno. Whether you really need a dyno or not is a different question.

I'm covinced the best way to break-in a new engine is on a dyno. I've done this with my last two engine builds and both turned out great. The last thing you want is to run a new engine for 500-1000 miles with a poor tune. The canned maps and auto-tuners may get you close but every engine and every build is different. On a dyno you have a controlled environment. They can monitor the engine and keep it within safe parameters during break-in.

 

My last two bikes were tuned / broken in on a Dyno. They have both run strong and trouble free. My dealer breaks tunes a lot of new bikes that way.

 

Retrop I'm with you. Most just get their touring bikes dynoed just for the male ego thing. Unless you are racing why would you want to put your bike under that kind of stress. I did the complete stage 1 thing myself, pipes, muffler, a/c and PCV and I am probably running 95% +/-, granted I do not have the graphs but all I know is my bike is running great and was never brought to the point of explosion to get it that way, JMO......good luck what ever you decide.

 

I agree with the ring seat comments and that your bike should be okay BUT I'd want clean oil in it.

You don't need a Dyno at all with a good map. Will it hurt to get the best tune? No. Will you get a better tune with Dyno than a good map? Only with a good Dyno tech, and they are relatively rare, compared to good maps.

I have one Dyno'd bike and one not. Similar mods. Very little diff between the two.

Something to consider: how many cars have you Dyno'd? A bike is waaayyy faster than most cars out of the box stock. Do you really crave that extra 2+/- tq and HP diff between a great map and a great Dyno? I'd spend the money on a good seat. Just my 2 cents.

 

They lied.

 

Call Jaime @ FuelMoto, as others have suggested. I did a stage 1 on my '09 when it had 1600 miles on the clock. She runs great, sounds great, and I am pleased. I am no wrench but I was able to do the complete install of the stage 1 all by my lone in under 2 hours.

 

Who told you this?

 

It is important to remember something here. Every person who works at a Harley store is there for one purpose and one purpose only. They are there to increase revenue and generate more profit than the previous day, month or year. There is a lot of pressure put on everybody from the ladies that work in clothing to the sales force and the shop to sell, sell and sell more. Management is never satisfied with the current sales figures. Sales managers will always tell the employees "You can do better and if you can't then I will find someone who will". Now, to get to the point of this rant. Not all Harley dealers nor their employees will nowingly take unfair advantage of their customers, but some will. Unfortunately there is no list published that lists unscrupulous Harley store owners. Talk to other riders and riding buddies and get a general feeling for who is good, who is better and who is best among the available dealers. There is absolutely no good reason that you would "have to have" a dyno tune. You don't have to have it to put a fuel management device on nor do you have to have it to change your intake breather or muffler/tailpipe. A fairly decent dyno that a Harley shop would invest in will run them in the neighborhood of 25 grand, give or take. Once that baby is sitting in the shop it needs to be busy in order to pay for itself. That is why the service side of the dealership is under constant pressure to "magimize resources". So if they tell you that you have to have a dyno tune done, be wary. Be very wary. Having a dyno tune done will help the shop more that it will help you. This is not a condemnation of any shop. Just be aware and get all the knowledge you can...beforehand.