The magical 212F oil temp?
Road Warrior
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From: Northern Colorado
I prefer to burn off all the condensation in one shot because I believe that excess moisture in the system for too long leads to sludge and corrosion. I guess I'm just stupid like that.
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From: Central Illinois, Between I-80 and I-74
I think the issue the OP has is with people saying not to start up the bike and idle it occasionally during storage. So "boil" off isn't the right term, running at speeds that will produce oil pressure and running the bike at full operating temperature for more than a minute or two will get rid of most moisture. Idling the bike for just a minute or two will move water (from condensation) that has collected in the bottom of the engine back up into areas with moving parts.
Edit to address the next post.
I didn't see the oil cooler thread. I've never heard the 212 deg number specifically mentioned either.
You are right, this thread is nonsensical crap and everyone is chiming in. Good for entertainment value though.
Entertainment value increases from here but so far what little technical aspect it had is gone.
I'm going to search for your regulator and springs thread(s). See what your question is and either give you advice or at least bump them up.
Edit to address the next post.
I didn't see the oil cooler thread. I've never heard the 212 deg number specifically mentioned either.
You are right, this thread is nonsensical crap and everyone is chiming in. Good for entertainment value though.
Entertainment value increases from here but so far what little technical aspect it had is gone.
I'm going to search for your regulator and springs thread(s). See what your question is and either give you advice or at least bump them up.
Last edited by piasspj; Jan 12, 2011 at 08:04 PM.
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I'm the OP, and I didn't say nothin' about storage start up, or idling, or anything of the like (you did some real creative deductive reasoning to come up with that conclusion). I recently replied to an oil cooler discussion, only to have yet another self proclaimed expert spouting off their infinite wisdom about minimum oil operating temperature to burn off moisture, and I guess I let it get to me. No real point, just venting and hopefuly at least one person will read this and re-evaluate their misguided belief in the 212F myth. Its funny when I post a real question, I get nothing, but when I post some nonsensical crap like this, everyone wants to chime in. If anyone wants to jump over and engage my inquiries about voltage regulators and OEM fork springs, that would be swell.
Road Master
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I figured this had to be related to oil coolers somehow. I've heard that crap about the oil not warming up enough to boil off the moisture when running an oil cooler. I've been running one for many years now with no issues. I do NOT have a thermostat on my cooler. No need since I live and ride in Florida 95 % of the time . But even so, I would probably not use a thermostat. Just one more thing to fail and cause problems. I am not bored due to winter...but I am bored at work right now....(don't tell the boss!)
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I'm the OP, and I didn't say nothin' about storage start up, or idling, or anything of the like (you did some real creative deductive reasoning to come up with that conclusion). I recently replied to an oil cooler discussion, only to have yet another self proclaimed expert spouting off their infinite wisdom about minimum oil operating temperature to burn off moisture, and I guess I let it get to me. No real point, just venting and hopefuly at least one person will read this and re-evaluate their misguided belief in the 212F myth. Its funny when I post a real question, I get nothing, but when I post some nonsensical crap like this, everyone wants to chime in. If anyone wants to jump over and engage my inquiries about voltage regulators and OEM fork springs, that would be swell.
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This thread is very relevant to the reliability of the harley engine. Kind of surprised that no one post has addressed the effects that altitude has on the boiling range of fluids. Just another detail that so many over look when discussing oil/water issues. What's the best oil and cam for me?
Road Warrior
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From: Port Neches Texas
your engine is basically a closed system, where does the water go? in the clouds in the crankcase? the relevance pertaining to reliability, would your engine be less reliable if you never read this thread and debated water boiling in the crankcase? we could simply drill and tap the bottom of the crankcase and bleed the water off daily, how about and oil/water separator, or maybe their is a water/oil emulsification and were just stuck with it. like i said if you have that much water in your oil you need to change it.