6.5's in Lowers
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6.5's in Lowers
So I'm adding lowers with 6.5" speakers but not sure what I'm doing for fairing audio yet. I have the lowers and when the speaker boxes come in both are going out for paint. I've been doing quite a bit of reasearch (especially on this site thanks everyone) and I've decided to go with an elf 2 channel amp $200 and for the lower speakers Polk audio MM651UM for $145 http://cgi.ebay.com/POLK-AUDIO-MM651...item53e66191f1
I'm going for the biggest bang for my buck! Undecided on what I'm doing for audio in the fairing. Will 2 elf (aka arc) amps fit in the fairing? I don't remember who but I've seen one on the forums here mounted to the side of the fairing under the left speaker. Propably will only upgrade the fairing speakers but not sure. Don't want to buy speakers designed for the harleys because the price is rediculous but trying to find 2 ohm marine grade speakers either 5.25 or 6.5 seems nearly impossible. Any other suggestions? I'll prob go with 6.5 2 ohm infinites but would like to find some resonably priced marine grade speakers.
It'd be great if you guys chimed in and gave me some input, THANKS!
I'm going for the biggest bang for my buck! Undecided on what I'm doing for audio in the fairing. Will 2 elf (aka arc) amps fit in the fairing? I don't remember who but I've seen one on the forums here mounted to the side of the fairing under the left speaker. Propably will only upgrade the fairing speakers but not sure. Don't want to buy speakers designed for the harleys because the price is rediculous but trying to find 2 ohm marine grade speakers either 5.25 or 6.5 seems nearly impossible. Any other suggestions? I'll prob go with 6.5 2 ohm infinites but would like to find some resonably priced marine grade speakers.
It'd be great if you guys chimed in and gave me some input, THANKS!
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I'd like to buy a 4 channel amp but can't seem to find a powerful enough one for the money. I only want a fairing mounted amp, GP as awesome as your system is I can't sacrafice bag space as my tour pak is rarely on. Almost bought hogtunes big ultra kit but that amp isn't big enough, only 60 watts a channel at a 2 ohm load. Hawg wired's amp would be great but I can't justify spending $1,000 on an amp alone.
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I'm going for the biggest bang for my buck! Undecided on what I'm doing for audio in the fairing. Will 2 elf (aka arc) amps fit in the fairing? I don't remember who but I've seen one on the forums here mounted to the side of the fairing under the left speaker. Propably will only upgrade the fairing speakers but not sure. Don't want to buy speakers designed for the harleys because the price is rediculous but trying to find 2 ohm marine grade speakers either 5.25 or 6.5 seems nearly impossible. Any other suggestions? I'll prob go with 6.5 2 ohm infinites but would like to find some resonably priced marine grade speakers.
It'd be great if you guys chimed in and gave me some input, THANKS![/quote]
If you get 4 ohm marine speakers and put them in your fairing and lowers, wire the 4 ohm speakers in parallel (Left and right channel) for your lowers and fairing, the amp will see the load as 2 ohms for each of the fronts.
It'd be great if you guys chimed in and gave me some input, THANKS![/quote]
If you get 4 ohm marine speakers and put them in your fairing and lowers, wire the 4 ohm speakers in parallel (Left and right channel) for your lowers and fairing, the amp will see the load as 2 ohms for each of the fronts.
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Are you planning to access the rear speaker pinouts on the HK radio? It's easy to do and costs under $50 in parts if you don't already have the 35 wire connector plug installed for XM or some other HD audio accesssory; if you do have the 35 wire connector already, the rear pinouts will only need the sockets for the speaker wires you add and cost will be under $5.
You'd also need the dealer to use the Digital Technician to turn on the HK's fader control if it is not already turned on; mine did it for free, but it shouldn't cost more than a 1/2 hour labor and may be much less than that.
When I added the '11 CVO SG speaker boxes, I did it with the four-channel set-up on the HK radio, but ran the fairing speakers w/o an add-on amp, and used the Arc 125.2 amp for the fairing lower speakers. The '11 CVO SG doesn't use the fader control for the fairng and fairing lower speakers, so it's not like the fader control is required for that speaker configuration. Having the fader control has been very nice to have on my bike.
Carl
You'd also need the dealer to use the Digital Technician to turn on the HK's fader control if it is not already turned on; mine did it for free, but it shouldn't cost more than a 1/2 hour labor and may be much less than that.
When I added the '11 CVO SG speaker boxes, I did it with the four-channel set-up on the HK radio, but ran the fairing speakers w/o an add-on amp, and used the Arc 125.2 amp for the fairing lower speakers. The '11 CVO SG doesn't use the fader control for the fairng and fairing lower speakers, so it's not like the fader control is required for that speaker configuration. Having the fader control has been very nice to have on my bike.
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Yeah I've kind of been waiting to see pricing on this from you guys, I do have to say you guys have great pricing for what you offer at J&M. I'm hoping you offer these amps with out the brakets and wire harness kits too.
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You've got the right idea but you'd have to wire them in a series for the amp to see the two at a 2 ohm load. Most amps are capable at running at 2 or 4 ohms so after you go through an aftermarket amp it doesn't really matter. I was refering to trying to find a 2 ohm speaker to be powered by the HK and not an amp, and the HK doesn't have enough power to run two 4 ohm speakers in a series tho.
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Are you planning to access the rear speaker pinouts on the HK radio? It's easy to do and costs under $50 in parts if you don't already have the 35 wire connector plug installed for XM or some other HD audio accesssory; if you do have the 35 wire connector already, the rear pinouts will only need the sockets for the speaker wires you add and cost will be under $5.
You'd also need the dealer to use the Digital Technician to turn on the HK's fader control if it is not already turned on; mine did it for free, but it shouldn't cost more than a 1/2 hour labor and may be much less than that.
When I added the '11 CVO SG speaker boxes, I did it with the four-channel set-up on the HK radio, but ran the fairing speakers w/o an add-on amp, and used the Arc 125.2 amp for the fairing lower speakers. The '11 CVO SG doesn't use the fader control for the fairng and fairing lower speakers, so it's not like the fader control is required for that speaker configuration. Having the fader control has been very nice to have on my bike.
Carl
You'd also need the dealer to use the Digital Technician to turn on the HK's fader control if it is not already turned on; mine did it for free, but it shouldn't cost more than a 1/2 hour labor and may be much less than that.
When I added the '11 CVO SG speaker boxes, I did it with the four-channel set-up on the HK radio, but ran the fairing speakers w/o an add-on amp, and used the Arc 125.2 amp for the fairing lower speakers. The '11 CVO SG doesn't use the fader control for the fairng and fairing lower speakers, so it's not like the fader control is required for that speaker configuration. Having the fader control has been very nice to have on my bike.
Carl
The Elf E1500DM's are a class D amp 1 ohm stable and are rms rated 500watts@1ohm 340watts@2ohms and 200watts@4ohms so 2 4 ohm speakers run in parallel would recieve 100 watts rms each not bad for around $125 each, I'm not an audio guy, so any of the audiophiles on here have any objections to this setup?
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I'd like to buy a 4 channel amp but can't seem to find a powerful enough one for the money. I only want a fairing mounted amp, GP as awesome as your system is I can't sacrafice bag space as my tour pak is rarely on. Almost bought hogtunes big ultra kit but that amp isn't big enough, only 60 watts a channel at a 2 ohm load. Hawg wired's amp would be great but I can't justify spending $1,000 on an amp alone.
From hogtunes site not even a dealer their 6 speaker system with the amp
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and 4 channel amp alone which can be piggy backed with another amp.
NCA 40.4 160 watt Amp
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*2 ohm speakers required
$349.95
This kit is an awesome and easy to install kit for all 2006-current Ultra Classics/Tri Glides.
The kit comes complete with a Hogtunes amplifier, all 6 speakers, fairing lower adaptors, 100% plug and play wire harness, and all required hardware.
In this configuration the factory radio powers the front and rear speakers, and the Hogtunes amplifier is dedicated to the lowers.
The front 4 speakers in this kit are the new Hogtunes 902.2-AA speakers with our magnet technology that plays 20% louder than previous models.
The radios fader will continue to work with the front 4 speakers on the fronts half of the fader, and the rears on the rear side of the fader.
You can easily take this system up to 8 speakers as its compatible with Hogtunes very popular HF-1 HOGPOD tweeter bar.
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