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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 05:28 PM
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So I've done 5 stock compensator swap outs now from 07 thru 10 bikes and the ONLY one with no, none, nadda signs of wear on the stock compensator was running Harley Syn3. I guess I'll just leave it at that - but it's interesting . . .
 
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Mileage and driving habits likely have more to do with compensator wear than fluid. With that said I use synthetic fluids in all three holes.
 
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Well, there's no doubt some truth to that - but mine was the worst of the bunch and the lowest mileage - and I know how I was riding so for a sample size of one (ie statistically insignificant) mileage and riding style had nothing to do with it.
 
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Is the Syn 3 a 'blend' of synthetic and dino.....and
were the other bikes running pure synthetic ??
Just wondering out loud for a scenario....
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by davessworks
I know - here we go again.

So I've done 5 stock compensator swap outs now from 07 thru 10 bikes and the ONLY one with no, none, nadda signs of wear on the stock compensator was running Harley Syn3. I guess I'll just leave it at that - but it's interesting . . .
Where are they showing wear? I just swapped mine out at 25,400 miles and didn't see any signs of wear.... using formula + since new.
 
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Where are they showing wear? I just swapped mine out at 25,400 miles and didn't see any signs of wear.... using formula + since new.
On the cam slider and shaft extender. On the cam and sprocket. Syn3 is Harley's fully synthetic oil. I assume the 3 relates to good for all 3 fills.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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Is the Syn 3 a 'blend' of synthetic and dino.....and
were the other bikes running pure synthetic ??
Just wondering out loud for a scenario....
Syn 3 is fully synthetic. The worst damage was my bike with under 6k miles. It had Formula +. It also had a bad leaking the inner primary that was fixed early in life under warranty (leaked upon delivery). So of course the service dept had to remove and reinstall the compensator. The second worst damage was on an ex-police bike. It too had a serious leak and had also had the compensator removed and reinstalled (easy to tell given the amount of Loctite on the bolt). I don't know what it had been running oil wise.
 
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Originally Posted by davessworks
On the cam slider and shaft extender. On the cam and sprocket. Syn3 is Harley's fully synthetic oil. I assume the 3 relates to good for all 3 fills.
Dave, did ya get any pics of the worn parts, I'd be interested in seeing the wear. I talked to a guy at the MoCo.customer service in Milwaukee and was told that formula + was the best choice for the primary (I mentioned going to Syn 3). As mentioned, I just swap comps and 25,400 miles with formula+ and no wear in the primary at all.
 
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Originally Posted by bowa18
Dave, did ya get any pics of the worn parts, I'd be interested in seeing the wear. I talked to a guy at the MoCo.customer service in Milwaukee and was told that formula + was the best choice for the primary (I mentioned going to Syn 3). As mentioned, I just swap comps and 25,400 miles with formula+ and no wear in the primary at all.
Do a search on my posts and you'll find some. I'm currently running Formula +. I'm going to wait for the dust to settle on the latest compensator rumors (SE Comp oiling) before doing any more of these installs.

here - easier for me to find than for you:
https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...mpensator.html
 

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Originally Posted by davessworks
Do a search on my posts and you'll find some. I'm currently running Formula +. I'm going to wait for the dust to settle on the latest compensator rumors (SE Comp oiling) before doing any more of these installs.
I found them. That didn't look good. The stock comp set up is a joke for sure. Not sure about the lubrication problems with the SE comp set up that I've been hearing bit and pieces on. Time will tell. I may pull my outer primary off after a few thousand miles and have a look.
 
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