I recently bought a used 08 Street Glide. I had researched all winter so I could make an educated purchase, but still screwed up. This particular bike already had S&S 510 cams, Rinehart true duals, a heavy breather and has been tuned with the SERT. Bike ran great when I test rode it, (50 degrees) and continued to run great when it was cold outside. We had one weekend where the temps hit the 80's and the bike ran a little fat from idle off....backfired through the pipes a few times around town at low RPM's. Black smoke at start up... I figure a little rich on the low end. No biggie, I wanted to get a tune just for peace of mind anyways. Low and behold I go to the local dealership and set up an appt. It was then I discovered that the SERT box does not stay with the bike, and you guessed it, I dont have it. The original owner passed away, the second owner bought the bike in his estate sale and the Indy shop that did all the work is out of business....so NO SERT BOX. My fault, I researched on here and elsewhere but didn't realize the box didn't stay plugged in to the bike ECM...at least that the SERT doesn't. I know others do so I guess I assumed the SERT did as well. So now the dealer tells me I need to buy another SERT and start from scratch since I have no records of the MAP that was used or anything. $549 for the unit, prob 5 to 6 hours labor.....What a pain in the a**..... This is my first experience with fuel injection and ECM's on a Harley. Old carb guy..... I know the dealer is only going to install a SERT since it's what they sell, but what I really need to know is do I HAVE to buy the SERT or can I go with another tuner. I really want to learn about all this new stuff (new to me) and I'm curious if other tuners are more user friendly than the SERT for a rookie. It's not a race bike....my mods are listed above, I just want enough adjustability for a smooth, dependable ride. I for sure will have to find someone to install another tuner and tune it for me, but I want to be able to connect the old laptop and learn/play with it on my own eventually. Any recommendations on other tuners or information about what I can and can't do in my situation would be appreciated. Yes, I am currently researching the countless threads about tuners, but it gets overwhelming!!! As of now, my new purchase is causing me stress, not pleasure!!!!!!!! But my lack of knowledge is the culprit.........(as usual) Thanks in advance for any help.......

 

buy a power commander from fuel moto and plug it in yourself. Just give em specs of bike and they will send you a mapped one. Plus they will send u new maps free if you n=make changes..

 

I went through kind of the same thing but the guy I bought from wouldn't return my calls. The tuner is married to the bike ,Its gona cost you $ Call fuel moto they guided me in the direction I was gona go ,but the wife let me get a new bike instead.

 

I would go with the PCV from FuelMoto you won't go wrong.

 

i agree fuel moto can set u up.or u can look into the terminal velocity tv3.its similar to a power commander with auto tune.it uses the stock o2 sensors to constantly adjust automaticly.several friends use it and love it.i went with the pc5 from fuel moto.works great also but does require dyno time.

 

So I do not HAVE to use another SERT like the dealer said? (Now why would he say that?? lol) I will research the fuel moto products..... Basically, the power commander will "erase" (or override)what is on the ECM from the SERT including the MAP and then get "installed" in place of the SERT with no problem? Should I feel this intimidated by doing this on my own. If fuel moto has great customer service, I can handle it.

 

Yep....Power Commander is the way to go!`

 

I agree that calling Fuel Moto should be your first step, as they'll assess the damage and give you a straightforward path to recovery even if it means you won't be buying anything from them. That's the way they do business and that's the good news for you. The bad news is that the ECM has been tuned for the S&S cams and that will likely make it a long-shot that they'll have a PCV or PV map available for that setup. Thus, you may need to buy a PCV and get a dyno-tune, which will be cheaper than buying another SERT with a dyno-tune but likely won't present the result you'd like to see. You'd think HD would have a contingency plan for people like you who are at a disadvantage by the actions of others, not by any sins that you've committed.

Another option is to buy the PCV and add the Auto-Tune kit, which would allow your bike to tune AFR's on the fly. If the ignition tables are optimized you could install the PCV-AT and let it tune by simply riding the bike. That's a $600 option that likely won't require a dyno-tune. Another one would be the EMS tuner, but that's a bit more expensive at around $650 from Fuel Moto. With this you send them your ECM and they modify it with the proprietary EMS code that will then run with WB O2 sensors. Like the PCV-AT the EMS will auto-tune on the fly only will do so directly to the ECM.

You have options but I doubt if any of them are going to be cheap. Please keep us informed about your situation.

 

I have been looking into the different fuel mgt systems, I stopped at the dealer and was told the Power Commander has had some issues in working with the throttle by wire touring bikes. I realize the dealer wants to sell the SE race tuner because its the company part, has any one else heard of issues with PC on the new bikes?

 

Mate, stop being concerned with what the dealer says and call Jamie at Fuel Moto. He will fix you up fair and square.
As others have said tell him what mods are installed on the bike and he will get you close enough, until you ride the bike for a while for a performance satisfaction evaluation (by you). You can always add the autotune to the PC-V later.
The link takes you to the page for your 2008 model.

http://www.fuelmotousa.com/pcvretrofit.htm