I have been on this forum for a while now, reading about people's experiences in terms of making more horsepower out of the 96" motors. Comparing what others have accomplished with what I want to accomplish, I think I have a plan I want to follow. Here are my goals for my '09 EGC non-cat bike:

- EPA complaint for sound and emissions.
- Moderate increase in hp and torque
- Maintain or improve fuel economy.
- Keep the cost as low as possible.

Here are my conclusions (please correct me where I am wrong)...

As much as I would like to put a SE255 cam in my bike the cost is just not justifiable. The parts themselves are not too bad, but there is a lot of labor and it requires re-mapping your ECU. I think if I want that much of an improvement, I should just trade up to a CVO.

Dyno charts can be deceiving. I have seen dyno charts vary as much as 10 hp/torque for a stock 96". So, at this point, I am not real worried about what the actual hp or torque I end up with. All I am really looking for is improvement.

I've done a lot of shopping around and read a lot of anecdotal evidence as well as reviews and supporting dyno charts and there might be better slip-ons out there, but none of them can compete with the Jackpot Dyno Tuned slip-ons in terms of price performance. Not the best looking or the best sounding (very subjective), but for me... form follows function.

I will probably put the SE A/C (back plate and filter) on. I actually like the HD football and I am not a fan of exposed filters, which is what nearly every other option is. Probably not the best choice in terms of performance or even price, but I think it will be good enough. I've read a lot about paper versus oiled filters and the only conclusion I can come to is that the evidence is not very compelling in any way. I like the convenience of a paper filter, so... that is how I will roll.

I will not do a dyno tune, ECU re-map, or add a piggy-back system to alter my ECU functionality in anyway. The stock setup is designed to handle variations in the environment. My understanding is that the HD SE re-map does nothing to alter the AFR or the timing, though I may go ahead and pay to have it done, just to satisfy any warranty or support issues. Will the bike run leaner than it does now? Maybe. What i will do is just check my plugs to see what happens. If it looks like it is running too lean, I will put the XIED's on. Will it be "dialed in"? Nope, but it will be good enough.

My first step will be to add the slip-ons. In fact, I am ready to order them right now (they are on sale even) and all I need to decide on is slash-ups or slash-downs. I can install them myself and according to advertisements... I should see an immediate improvement. Freer flowing pipes without a freer flowing intake has conflicting theories however. So, I am very curious to see what actually happens.

 

i started with xied"s (was running way to hot)they were an improvment then added jackpots,the heat and ping returned,then added ac and pcv huge improvment.played with all combinations then sold the ied"s to a buddy,for me they didnt do enough, i would use them stock or try them with just slipons but not with ac.

 

What air kit did you put on?

 

Sounds like your mind is made up

 

se backing plate with k&n filter.dont know what year yours is but mine is 07 and i had major heat and ping ,think alot of 07 owners had same problems also think harley made some tweeks in there mapping to cool the 09 and up so your results may differ.with me the ieds were good stock and barley cut it with slip ons and didnt cut it with slipons and ac.pcv was 300$ and made a huge difference for me.

 

Pretty close to it. Still looking for feedback though and to point out any flaws in my reasoning.

 

Yea. I think you're right. I have read similar things, so I am pretty sure that it may not be possible to compare the two year's results. I think '09 got a new head pipe too, which could change things quite a bit.

 

i think the 09 runs almost as hot u just dont feel it since they moved the head pipe try the ieds, just be alert for pinging, if it gets too hot it will ping. u could also just do the slip ons ied and leave the stock airbox.

 

I get pinging now in the summer and riding up through the hills 2-up.

 

The stock setup cant adjust enough to give you the performance you want with the A/C and exhaust change. You need to alter your fuel managment.