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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 09:56 AM
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Just ordered the Ipod interface for my 09 ultra classic, but the instructions are not very clear.. has any one here installed the interface ? How difficult is it to do with the instructions that came with the unit ? Do you need the service manual ?
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:06 AM
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I installed mine with the instructions, and I would say without a problem, but that wouldn't be totally true. When the item first came out the instructions had pin 19 and 31 reversed, so this was a problem, but other than that, I had no problem. Once HD, I, and several others figured this out last year, everything was fixed and working.

If you have a specific problem you are asking about, I or someone may be able to advise, but I know that as long as you have instructions that are dated like August 10, or later then they will have the pin out correct and you should have no problems.

The service manual is always handy, and you should get one, is it needed for this install, no, as long as you know how to remove the fairing you are fine, but get the manual anyway.
 

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:07 AM
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Here is a thread about an install w/pics.

https://www.hdforums.com/forum/touri...-2011-rgc.html
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:08 AM
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Should have saved your money,I have it on my 11 CVO SG ,sometimes it works sometimes not. Others have been having the same problems. We are useing the I POD nano that came with the bike. Hope you have better luck.
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Retro 11
Should have saved your money,I have it on my 11 CVO SG ,sometimes it works sometimes not. Others have been having the same problems. We are using the I POD nano that came with the bike. Hope you have better luck.
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I have been using mine on my bike for a year now, without a problem, and I would buy another in a second, if I needed one. I also use an iPod classic (I do not recommend using one) which is not supposed to be used for this entire time, now it will probably stop working since I said this.

I know that the 11's have a problem, but I have not heard of any other year having any sort of problem, although they may, I have not read or heard of it. I believe the 11's have a problem with the firmware and the setup, but I am not sure since I do not own an 11.
 
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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by carlosgtn
Just ordered the Ipod interface for my 09 ultra classic, but the instructions are not very clear.. has any one here installed the interface ? How difficult is it to do with the instructions that came with the unit ? Do you need the service manual ?
The thread by Wachuko (firedog341 provided the link) should be a big help to you.

As that thread mentions, your installation will be slightly different in two respects: (1) your Ultra already has the 35 wire connector to the HK radio; and, (2) your bike has a complete connector 6 (i.e. the 6B connector that Wachuko's bike has AND the 6A connector that his didn't have, but your Ultra has.

Those two differences make for a slightly different installation because your 35 wire connector will have about 30 wires already installed in it while the 35 wire connector used by Wachuko had no wires in it; so, it was easier for him to install the wires from the iPod kit.

Like him, however, you can use the Tyco installation instructions for "opening" the 35 wire connector to insert the wires in it that come with the iPod kit. The instructions can be accessed using the link in post #16 of Wachuko's thread. (NOTE: opening the 35 wire connector to insert wires is one of the steps in the iPod installation instructions that reference the HD Service Manual.)

The connector 6 (which your bike has) created confusion for non-Ultra owners like Wachuko since those bikes have only the 6B connector which the ipod kit's instructions don't account for.

Bottom line: if you can remove the outer fairing on your bike, you can do this installation w/o a Service Manual. Personally, having the SM is strongly recommended (mine has gotten a lot of use) if you do any work on your bike. However, for installing the ipod kit, the Tyco instructions are better than the description in the SM in my opinion.

Good luck with your project. Take some pictures as you do it and start a thread showing your installation.

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Old Jun 14, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Well the instructions posted here made it very easy to do the install, one thing I have to work on is that for some reason two of the wires that go on the 35 pin connector which must control the sound to the front speakers, even tho the pins are all the way in, when i was trying to tuck the wiring out of the way I lost sound on the front speakers but after moving them around the sound came back This would be a pain to have to remove the faring if the sound goes away, Any tricks to stop this from happening if after checking the connections everything is ok ?
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 09:28 AM
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I don't know of any "tricks;" the problem is there are so many wires in such a small space that the wires you are inserting are difficult to manipulate. The sockets on the ends of the wires are designed to engage a locking tab inside the connector when they are correctly oriented, and removed by rotating them left or right to disengage the locking tab.

The test for fully seating the wires is to tug on the wire; if it pulls out the locking tab has not been engaged, and the wire should be pushed in and rotated slightly to engage the tab. As mentioned, this is not easy with all those other wires in the way.

In addition to the tug test, look at the red wedgelock end in the closed position after inserting the necessary wires; all of the inserted sockets should be touching the inner side of the wedgelock. You can get a false lock with a wire (i.e. the wire seems to be secure; it won't pull out; but, the socket is not touching the inner side of the wedgelock.) If you do, open the wedgelock again and manipulate the wire to fully insert it and repeat the tug test, close the wedgelock, and confirm that the socket is now touching the inner face of the wedgelock.

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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Harleypingman
I don't know of any "tricks;" the problem is there are so many wires in such a small space that the wires you are inserting are difficult to manipulate. The sockets on the ends of the wires are designed to engage a locking tab inside the connector when they are correctly oriented, and removed by rotating them left or right to disengage the locking tab.

The test for fully seating the wires is to tug on the wire; if it pulls out the locking tab has not been engaged, and the wire should be pushed in and rotated slightly to engage the tab. As mentioned, this is not easy with all those other wires in the way.

In addition to the tug test, look at the red wedgelock end in the closed position after inserting the necessary wires; all of the inserted sockets should be touching the inner side of the wedgelock. You can get a false lock with a wire (i.e. the wire seems to be secure; it won't pull out; but, the socket is not touching the inner side of the wedgelock.) If you do, open the wedgelock again and manipulate the wire to fully insert it and repeat the tug test, close the wedgelock, and confirm that the socket is now touching the inner face of the wedgelock.

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I know it says to NOT disassemble the wedgelock but the only way I could get one of my wires to seat was to remove it. I had no problems reinstalling it once the wire was seated.
 
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Old Jun 15, 2011 | 11:37 AM
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I know it says to NOT disassemble the wedgelock but the only way I could get one of my wires to seat was to remove it. I had no problems reinstalling it once the wire was seated.
Glad to hear it worked for you. But if you were doing this with only 5 or so wires in the 35 wire connector, your experience was much simpler than dealing with the 35 wire connector on an Ultra with 30+ wires to fit into the wedgelock once it's been removed.

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