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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 12:47 PM
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OK, you guys tell me? Battery tested at 12.8 just sitting, turned ignition on and battery dropped to 9.4, turned ignition off and went back to 12.8, is it a bad battery?
Yes. Bet if you remove battery and charge it and take it to a place like auto zone that can put a proper load test for the amp rating on the side of the battery you will find your battery has very little amperage left in it. Its so weak it will not pull in the solenoid. Actually you just did a crude test that I have written many times on the forum.


After a good 24 hour low amp controlled charge and the battery has set about 2 hours voltage should be about 12.8 volts.

12.8 = full charged

12.6 = 75%

12.3 = 50%

12.0 =25%

With a DC volt meter hooked across the battery terminals and reading 12.7 or so, crank motor and while its cranking it should not drop below 9.6 volts or so and as soon as it starts and throttled up to 2000 rpm or so should read 14.8 or so volts. The crank check shows a rough check of the reserve amperage capacity of the battery while cranking with a 150-200 amp load on it. The 14.8 or so shows a good alternator and if you leave it on a while as the battery is recharged from starting, the regulatory will drop the voltage a little showing itself working. However with the lights and stuff always on it will never drop back much.
When a battery wears out a good charge will show fairly good voltage but the battery can still have very low amperage capacity which will show in the crude crank test but really should be checked after a good charge by removing it from bike and getting a free check at a place like AutoZone that has a fancy load meter check that gives you a print out of the battery health. Battery MUST BE CHARGED to check it.


One thing I do not understand is the starter bang which is the solenoid. i would think you voltage is so low when you hit the starter you would not get this bang. Surely you did not drive water into starter?
 

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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Conehead
OK, you guys tell me? Battery tested at 12.8 just sitting, turned ignition on and battery dropped to 9.4, turned ignition off and went back to 12.8, is it a bad battery?
Yep. You have a bad battery.
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 01:38 PM
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Guys I appreciate all of the help, you were correct it was a bad battery! Took it out and to autozone as suggested and immediately the tester sad bad battery! I don't post a great deal on here mostly just read and take it in, but when I have an issue and do post 100% of the time you guys have the answers and i appreciate it!! Have a good rest of the weekend!
 
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Old Aug 7, 2011 | 01:44 PM
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Guys I appreciate all of the help, you were correct it was a bad battery! Took it out and to autozone as suggested and immediately the tester sad bad battery! I don't post a great deal on here mostly just read and take it in, but when I have an issue and do post 100% of the time you guys have the answers and i appreciate it!! Have a good rest of the weekend!
Glad you got it solved. Was worried that your bang which I would not think you should get was the engine locking up from a hydraulic water lock drive in through throttle body and open valve. Would take a pressure washer to do that.
 
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