Didn't Even Get It Home!!!!
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From: Wisconsin, USA
OK there are two ways to look at this. Iceman is a sincere Man of God and needed a motorcycle to minister and God blessed him with a donor. Now he can do God's work and everyone is happy. Including me.
OR
Iceman is a conman and uses religion for his own gain. He tricked a donor into buying him a cycle with money that could of gone to a better cause. In this case ShakeMe would have a legitimate gripe. I hope this is not the case though.
I like Dennis Prager's interpretation of the 3rd commandment.
He says the correct translation is "You shall not carry the Lord's name in vain". This means you shouldn't say you're religious and do bad things. This turns people against God, because they say "If religious people are bad, why should I be religious." So this is one of the worst sins, and that is why I hope Iceman uses his gift for good.
OR
Iceman is a conman and uses religion for his own gain. He tricked a donor into buying him a cycle with money that could of gone to a better cause. In this case ShakeMe would have a legitimate gripe. I hope this is not the case though.
I like Dennis Prager's interpretation of the 3rd commandment.
He says the correct translation is "You shall not carry the Lord's name in vain". This means you shouldn't say you're religious and do bad things. This turns people against God, because they say "If religious people are bad, why should I be religious." So this is one of the worst sins, and that is why I hope Iceman uses his gift for good.
Road Captain
Joined: Oct 2006
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From: South Florida
Really? Did he take his eye off of the suffering in Somalia just long enough to "bless" this guy with a motorcycle? I don't normally respond to these kinds of posts, but this kind of rational is sickening.
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From: Mi
Like someone else said, "I've heard it all now!"
I agree that this so-called "minister" doesn't have the BELIEF that he does NOT
need a HD, and he did NOT receive this from "god"....he's a damn begger, and an
unappreciative one at that.....wanting MORE than he was given...
A "motorcycle ministry"....gimme a hot damn break already......
Just ANOTHER reason for me to LOSE any respect for a LOT of people that call
themselves RELIGIOUS, while they are only USING religion for THEIR OWN DAMN
ADVANCEMENTS!!
I think I'll go throw up now.....just thinking of how much COULD have been
purchased to help those that don't have a GOD GIVEN HD to cruise around in.
And he probably doesn't even need insurance, cuz "god" will take care of that begging
episode as well.....
I agree that this so-called "minister" doesn't have the BELIEF that he does NOT
need a HD, and he did NOT receive this from "god"....he's a damn begger, and an
unappreciative one at that.....wanting MORE than he was given...
A "motorcycle ministry"....gimme a hot damn break already......
Just ANOTHER reason for me to LOSE any respect for a LOT of people that call
themselves RELIGIOUS, while they are only USING religion for THEIR OWN DAMN
ADVANCEMENTS!!
I think I'll go throw up now.....just thinking of how much COULD have been
purchased to help those that don't have a GOD GIVEN HD to cruise around in.
And he probably doesn't even need insurance, cuz "god" will take care of that begging
episode as well.....
Road Master
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From: Centeral Coast, California
Ice man: I don't know if all of this is right or wrong. I prefer to judge you by your own standards, and not mine. So be a man of your word, to be sure.
If you learn anything at all in this, I hope it's tact. That's a story that's much wiser having kept "in house". Hopefully you'll see many miracles in your ministry, but not all are to be told to just anyone that will listen or read.
If you learn anything at all in this, I hope it's tact. That's a story that's much wiser having kept "in house". Hopefully you'll see many miracles in your ministry, but not all are to be told to just anyone that will listen or read.
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From: Booming metropolis
Ice man: I don't know if all of this is right or wrong. I prefer to judge you by your own standards, and not mine. So be a man of your word, to be sure.
If you learn anything at all in this, I hope it's tact. That's a story that's much wiser having kept "in house". Hopefully you'll see many miracles in your ministry, but not all are to be told to just anyone that will listen or read.
If you learn anything at all in this, I hope it's tact. That's a story that's much wiser having kept "in house". Hopefully you'll see many miracles in your ministry, but not all are to be told to just anyone that will listen or read.
damn dude, you almost had me until you said, "I ask him just for arguments sake 'How much could I have had?'"
What goes around comes around.
I'm a non-church going Christian who drinks, cusses, and lives. I also help veterans, my Nation's people, and my community. But I do believe in God and I do say a prayer when needed. Jesus drank wine and I'm sure he cussed when he hit himself with a hammer (he was a carpenter to those who don't know).
Either way, most ministers are con-men, who like little boy's bootyholes and spending others money. Hell, I know more than one minister with a criminal record.
You better be on that bike 12 months a year spreading your interpretation of the word or you're gonna rot in hell like the majority of the pedophiles and thieves that some call "Men of God."
What goes around comes around.
I'm a non-church going Christian who drinks, cusses, and lives. I also help veterans, my Nation's people, and my community. But I do believe in God and I do say a prayer when needed. Jesus drank wine and I'm sure he cussed when he hit himself with a hammer (he was a carpenter to those who don't know).
Either way, most ministers are con-men, who like little boy's bootyholes and spending others money. Hell, I know more than one minister with a criminal record.
You better be on that bike 12 months a year spreading your interpretation of the word or you're gonna rot in hell like the majority of the pedophiles and thieves that some call "Men of God."
Tourer
Joined: Oct 2008
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From: Nevada
Wow, some serious holy rollers here, and questioning is not welcome. Where I get stuck is on this: "needed a motorcycle to minister". Really? There must be thousands of religious leaders who go about their business without a motorcycle, much less a Harley.
Not buying it, but to each his own.
Not buying it, but to each his own.
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Joe Kucinski
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From: Woodinville, WA
Wow, some serious holy rollers here, and questioning is not welcome. Where I get stuck is on this: "needed a motorcycle to minister". Really? There must be thousands of religious leaders who go about their business without a motorcycle, much less a Harley.
Not buying it, but to each his own.
Not buying it, but to each his own.
Last edited by davessworks; Aug 9, 2011 at 10:02 PM.
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From: Woodinville, WA
damn dude, you almost had me until you said, "I ask him just for arguments sake 'How much could I have had?'"
What goes around comes around.
I'm a non-church going Christian who drinks, cusses, and lives. I also help veterans, my Nation's people, and my community. But I do believe in God and I do say a prayer when needed. Jesus drank wine and I'm sure he cussed when he hit himself with a hammer (he was a carpenter to those who don't know).
Either way, most ministers are con-men, who like little boy's bootyholes and spending others money. Hell, I know more than one minister with a criminal record.
You better be on that bike 12 months a year spreading your interpretation of the word or you're gonna rot in hell like the majority of the pedophiles and thieves that some call "Men of God."
What goes around comes around.
I'm a non-church going Christian who drinks, cusses, and lives. I also help veterans, my Nation's people, and my community. But I do believe in God and I do say a prayer when needed. Jesus drank wine and I'm sure he cussed when he hit himself with a hammer (he was a carpenter to those who don't know).
Either way, most ministers are con-men, who like little boy's bootyholes and spending others money. Hell, I know more than one minister with a criminal record.
You better be on that bike 12 months a year spreading your interpretation of the word or you're gonna rot in hell like the majority of the pedophiles and thieves that some call "Men of God."