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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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I changed my fluids today but when I was cleaning the bike after, I noticed that I have pinched out the O ring on the Primary drain plug.
No big deal to put a new O ring on but I was wondering can I reuse the Amsoil I just put in if I drain it into a clean container and measure that I have the proper amount to put back in.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by booch
I changed my fluids today but when I was cleaning the bike after, I noticed that I have pinched out the O ring on the Primary drain plug.
No big deal to put a new O ring on but I was wondering can I reuse the Amsoil I just put in if I drain it into a clean container and measure that I have the proper amount to put back in.
yes as long as it was drained into a clean container. the primary is pretty basid no need for sparkling clean oil. I have done the same when I needed to tighten a compensator nut after having just changed oil.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:33 PM
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Sure, why not.
 
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Old Aug 28, 2011 | 11:42 PM
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I had the same problem with my first, 1000 mile, service. I just tightened the bolt and the leak stopped.

I noticed at the time I took the bolt out that the factory does not rely on the O ring. They use a sealant of some sort. So, I used some teflon tape. Right? Wrong? I do not know. But if the facory does not rely on the O ring I figured I should not, also.

I have to wonder why we can't just use a copper washer like other engines.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 03:34 AM
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I would use ssome clean oil for the following reasons:

1. Psychologically, it would bother me even though I just changed it, to re-use oil
2. Think of it as flushing out your primary case. When I buy a new or used bike, I always do 2 oil changes,with a few miles in between, to flush out the previous owner's crap, just in case.
3. 1 quart of oil is cheap, and just think--your contribution helps to feed the families of the poor oil company executives.

BTW Teflon tape is a PITA. Gotta clean it off after every change. The rubber washer is just fine. Never trusted copper washers, although they seem to work for cars.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 03:48 AM
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Originally Posted by dickey
I would use ssome clean oil for the following reasons:

1. Psychologically, it would bother me even though I just changed it, to re-use oil
2. Think of it as flushing out your primary case. When I buy a new or used bike, I always do 2 oil changes,with a few miles in between, to flush out the previous owner's crap, just in case.
3. 1 quart of oil is cheap, and just think--your contribution helps to feed the families of the poor oil company executives.

BTW Teflon tape is a PITA. Gotta clean it off after every change. The rubber washer is just fine. Never trusted copper washers, although they seem to work for cars.
I would agree if it were the crankcase but the primary is a chain and clutch plates. YOu could pour used motoroil in and it would not know the difference. within the first 50 miles it is going to be no different then the oil he reused.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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If you clean around the drain plug with a toothbrush to ensure that ALL the dirt is gone, and the container is brand spanking clean, like an empty milk jug, then I agree that the oil can be changed.

Another method is to use a clean container, clean around the plug with a tooth brush, remove the plug and put your finger over the hole to keep the oil from coming out. Pass the plug to wife, have her install another O ring, and wrap with teflon tape if you prefer, and then reinstall the plug with a new gasket. Measure the amount lost into the clean container, and replenish. Or just remove the cover and add until it comes up to the desired level per the manual.

Just saying.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Sandcrab
If you clean around the drain plug with a toothbrush to ensure that ALL the dirt is gone, and the container is brand spanking clean, like an empty milk jug, then I agree that the oil can be changed.

Another method is to use a clean container, clean around the plug with a tooth brush, remove the plug and put your finger over the hole to keep the oil from coming out. Pass the plug to wife, have her install another O ring, and wrap with teflon tape if you prefer, and then reinstall the plug with a new gasket. Measure the amount lost into the clean container, and replenish. Or just remove the cover and add until it comes up to the desired level per the manual.

Just saying.
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Get someone to assist you and while you put your finger in the dike, they install a new O-ring on the drain plug. You will have minimal loss and, if you don't fumble around re-starting the drain plug, it should take less than a 1/4 quart to replenish.
 
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Originally Posted by Matt0987
I had the same problem with my first, 1000 mile, service. I just tightened the bolt and the leak stopped.

I noticed at the time I took the bolt out that the factory does not rely on the O ring. They use a sealant of some sort. So, I used some teflon tape. Right? Wrong? I do not know. But if the facory does not rely on the O ring I figured I should not, also.

I have to wonder why we can't just use a copper washer like other engines.
I avoid teflon tape on engines. Little fibers from the teflon are left in the hole and on the male threads, especially the next time you take it apart and put it back together, and I worry that the teflon "strings" could stop up a small oil passageway. It probably wouldn't be a problem on the primary but I stay away from the tape. The paste style would be better.
 
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Old Aug 29, 2011 | 08:25 AM
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Is the o-ring torn or just pushed out from over tightening, if not torn it might just spring back if you just back plug off a bit
 
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