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I need to check/change my tensioners this winter and want to at least upgrade the cams. I'm eventually looking to upgrade the top end as well and I see the Andrews 26 is recommended if the 95 ci upgrade is anticipated.
Would I be happy with the 26's for 20-30k before I did the 95 ci upgrade?
I have an 01 EG and am looking at geared cams. Mixed riding and thinking of a trailer for long trips in the future.
The 21N cam is barely a slight upgrade from the stock cam. You did get the old cams back?
I'd check them against what was installed by whoever did the work. Maybe the cams removed were not stock '01 cams.
PVC? whatzit? (positivecrankcaseventilation?)
Did the installer pull the heads or cut the pushrods? Something is out of whack. I noticed no decrease in low-end, if anything an increase. Top-end is stronger.
The tuner installed the cams. No decel popping, idle is spot on (even with the MM in there). It feels like a went from a 21 to stock. Its bizarre in that the bike is running as smooth as ever jut way more tame then before. I'm starting to think there was some other cam in there and I went backwards with the 21 or the the tuner put in the wrong cams. Even more perplexing is Dyno graf show MP=74.63/MT=85.31 which is pretty good for a stock 88.
To the best of my knowledge bike was stock everything when bought it last year except the the previous owners had the tentioners replaced with the SE hydrolic kit and added a oil cooler. I have the paperwork. No cams listed.
So here my next question... the dealer paper work for the tentioner install has adjustable pushrods, new tappets, and the tuner said there were already Torrington barings in there. Is that normal on a SE Hydro tentioner install?
It might make some difference with my mufflers vs yours, but I wouldn't think it would be that much. I have very similar dyno numbers. Maybe the ones removed weren't stock. In replacing the tensioners most shops cut the pushrods to save the labor of going through the top. I reused mine. Maybe it's possible they aren't set to the correct length, and you're not getting full lift on your valves.
I need to check/change my tensioners this winter and want to at least upgrade the cams. I'm eventually looking to upgrade the top end as well and I see the Andrews 26 is recommended if the 95 ci upgrade is anticipated.
Would I be happy with the 26's for 20-30k before I did the 95 ci upgrade?
I have an 01 EG and am looking at geared cams. Mixed riding and thinking of a trailer for long trips in the future.
The 21 and 26 are very similar, a few degrees apart. The 21 is a little bit higher lift. The 21's come on right off idle, the 26's several hundred rpm later. On my five speed bike 70 is around 2800 rpm, right in the 21's sweet spot. I rarely exceed 4800 rpm except during hard acceleration, the advertised limit of the 21's. Google Joe Hinton build. Lots of info on your question.
Just did the 26 cams,new shoes and pump spring in my 01 EGC last week.Have yet to try them 2-up yet,but a noticeable increase in power.On the open highway at the usual throttle position was surprised that I was going about 40 kmh over the limit instead of my usual 20,good thing the laser gun wasn't out...
The 21N cam is barely a slight upgrade from the stock cam. You did get the old cams back?
I'd check them against what was installed by whoever did the work. Maybe the cams removed were not stock '01 cams.
PVC? whatzit? (positivecrankcaseventilation?)
Did the installer pull the heads or cut the pushrods? Something is out of whack. I noticed no decrease in low-end, if anything an increase. Top-end is stronger.
The bike already had adjustable pushrods, PVC was supposed to be PCV (power commander V) my bad. I'm going to talk to the tuner tomorrow. He has the old cams.
The 21N cam is barely a slight upgrade from the stock cam. You did get the old cams back?
I'd check them against what was installed by whoever did the work. Maybe the cams removed were not stock '01 cams.
PVC? whatzit? (positivecrankcaseventilation?)
Did the installer pull the heads or cut the pushrods? Something is out of whack. I noticed no decrease in low-end, if anything an increase. Top-end is stronger.
That totally depends on what year you are dealing with. There is a tremendous difference in cams between an early year TC88 and the final year, in '06.
As I've posted over and over again on this forum, don't believe anything you read on internet forums. Check your manufacturer's specs for your year. An '06, which I have, was the first year of the EPA restrictions, and had cams with NO OVERLAPP, and a CAT in the RIGHT SIDE EXHAUST ! Installing an Andrews 21 gear drive made a tremendous difference.
Well, I was just gonna do the 21's in my 06, but then I thought about where I eventually want to go without spending $$$ on a new bike. Ended up with 98", flat tops, CNC heads, and Wood 5G gear cams. Also had the DP centrifugal pressure clutch installed which really made the difference how the clutch engages. Anyway, I'm very happy with the mods and I can easily pull away from stock 103's.
Maybe it has a sheared o-ring on oil pump sump. Kinda sounds like power loss when mine was sheared , runs the same just didn't rev like it should & maybe not as much power but still smooth. I would hope for more power with a cam swap then what you getting mines not far from that with stock cams.
Well, I was just gonna do the 21's in my 06, but then I thought about where I eventually want to go without spending $$$ on a new bike. Ended up with 98", flat tops, CNC heads, and Wood 5G gear cams. Also had the DP centrifugal pressure clutch installed which really made the difference how the clutch engages. Anyway, I'm very happy with the mods and I can easily pull away from stock 103's.
When you went 98 did you bore your stock jugs or go with aftermarket ones?
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