"Stealer" does it again
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Is someone forcing you to take that deal?
Oh - and as the case with anything - beware of the cheap discounted tires bought on-line. You often get what you paid for.
I, for one, will never buy another tire on-line - regardless of price. I got a sweat *** deal on some tires for my truck on line. Hard to feel like I got such a great deal when I had to replace 2 of them after approx. 2K miles. So much for saving money.
The dealer gives a much better warrenty than these internet stores. But that dont matter does it since you got "screwed". Don;t believe me? Go ahead and try to get that tire replaced on-line under warrenty. Its a real hoot.
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I ONLY ever buy tires online. The Tirerack cannot be beat for car/truck tires.
Motorcycle tires I also buy online from a REPUTABLE dealer (no ebay) and I have a local guy who installs them for cheap.
Motorcycle tires I also buy online from a REPUTABLE dealer (no ebay) and I have a local guy who installs them for cheap.
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From: Commerce, Mich.
Got ther last tires for both bikes on-line from Jake Wilson. 100-110 each tire. Mounted myself and balanced using DynaBeads.. I have 15K on my e-3's Wife has 8K on her's with no issues at all.
Mounting with Dyna Beads is easy, fast, and NO weights on the rim.
Mounting with Dyna Beads is easy, fast, and NO weights on the rim.
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Plus the guy stands behind the tires he sells - no questions asked. Again - get that service on-line. Oh - not only are the tires in the same ball park as the on-line stores - you only get the free rotation and service if you get the tires from them. They will mount any tire you bring them....but they aint gonna give you the free service or stand behind a product they do not sell.
I dont see any benefit from these on-line discount stores at all. usually ends up costing more in the long run.
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As for your online purchase, what brand of tire did you buy? I don't buy off brand tires because of their price, I buy name brand. Specifically Dunlop. I get 'em from a reputable online dealer, mount 'em myself, & haven't had any problems in the last 30 years other than the occasional puncture.........not the dealer's fault..........
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Not to start an argument - but I looked on Tirerack. Prices did not impress me at all. I just got 4 tires put on my wifes car. I bought the tires from the local tire place in town and paid $5.67 less per tire than what was advertised on tirerack. Not much - but the guy in town offers free tire rotations for the life of the tire (every 7K miles) on top of that.
Plus the guy stands behind the tires he sells - no questions asked. Again - get that service on-line. Oh - not only are the tires in the same ball park as the on-line stores - you only get the free rotation and service if you get the tires from them. They will mount any tire you bring them....but they aint gonna give you the free service or stand behind a product they do not sell.
I dont see any benefit from these on-line discount stores at all. usually ends up costing more in the long run.
Plus the guy stands behind the tires he sells - no questions asked. Again - get that service on-line. Oh - not only are the tires in the same ball park as the on-line stores - you only get the free rotation and service if you get the tires from them. They will mount any tire you bring them....but they aint gonna give you the free service or stand behind a product they do not sell.
I dont see any benefit from these on-line discount stores at all. usually ends up costing more in the long run.
I suspect we are buying very different tires.
What kind of tires did you put on the wife's car? I'll bet the treadwear rating was over 500 right?
I only buy performance tires or snow tires, and local shops don't sell those in volume, so they can't compete with online vendors.
Price out a set of Bridgestone RE760s at a local tire shop and they won't be able to touch Tire Rack's price.
Also, free rotations would not help, NO ONE wrenches on my cars except me, unless its a job that is truly over my head (such as pulling the engine).
Ask your local shop if they use a torque wrench on your lugs, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts its an air impact wrench...which is fine until a lug bolt snaps someday due to the fatigue of them torquing your lugs to 200-300 ft*lbs every time they do a free rotation for you.
My lugs get torqued to an exact 95 ft*lbs.
Last edited by parabellum_9x19; Sep 27, 2011 at 05:40 PM.
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From: Illinois
The dealer has a set hourly rate, MSRP for the tires and a rate book for the time.
That is not doing anything wrong! That is normal! It is the consumer's job to determine all the options that are available and the consequences of each option.
Example if the consumer decides to buy a tire on line and get free shipping, no taxes and a discount. The next decision is to mount the tire, go to an indy or to the Franchised dealer. In going to the indy or dealer the consumer must decide to take the bike there or the dismounted tire.
If he does the tire himself at home then what level of tools to have. Just two tire spoons will to the trick. But, how fancy to go. Tire changer(manual or powered), what lift to raise the bike or chain hoist to life one end.
I could go on but the idea is that the consumer is the one to make these decisions and those decisions will dictate the final costs.
It is totally ignorant to whine about any franchised dealer's price whether it be a motorcycle dealer or car dealer. Their prices are posted.
Either do it yourself or pay up but in either case STFU
If you can't afford to maintain a bike sell it.!
That is not doing anything wrong! That is normal! It is the consumer's job to determine all the options that are available and the consequences of each option.
Example if the consumer decides to buy a tire on line and get free shipping, no taxes and a discount. The next decision is to mount the tire, go to an indy or to the Franchised dealer. In going to the indy or dealer the consumer must decide to take the bike there or the dismounted tire.
If he does the tire himself at home then what level of tools to have. Just two tire spoons will to the trick. But, how fancy to go. Tire changer(manual or powered), what lift to raise the bike or chain hoist to life one end.
I could go on but the idea is that the consumer is the one to make these decisions and those decisions will dictate the final costs.
It is totally ignorant to whine about any franchised dealer's price whether it be a motorcycle dealer or car dealer. Their prices are posted.
Either do it yourself or pay up but in either case STFU
If you can't afford to maintain a bike sell it.!
Last edited by lh4x4; Sep 27, 2011 at 05:44 PM.
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Not wanting to argue, but here are my counter points:
I suspect we are buying very different tires.
What kind of tires did you put on the wife's car? I'll bet the treadwear rating was over 500 right?
I only buy performance tires or snow tires, and local shops don't sell those in volume, so they can't compete with online vendors.
Price out a set of Bridgestone RE760s at a local tire shop and they won't be able to touch Tire Rack's price.
Also, free rotations would not help, NO ONE wrenches on my cars except me, unless its a job that is truly over my head (such as pulling the engine).
Ask your local shop if they use a torque wrench on your lugs, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts its an air impact wrench...which is fine until a lug bolt snaps someday due to the fatigue of them torquing your lugs to 200-300 ft*lbs every time they do a free rotation for you.
My lugs get torqued to an exact 95 ft*lbs.
I suspect we are buying very different tires.
What kind of tires did you put on the wife's car? I'll bet the treadwear rating was over 500 right?
I only buy performance tires or snow tires, and local shops don't sell those in volume, so they can't compete with online vendors.
Price out a set of Bridgestone RE760s at a local tire shop and they won't be able to touch Tire Rack's price.
Also, free rotations would not help, NO ONE wrenches on my cars except me, unless its a job that is truly over my head (such as pulling the engine).
Ask your local shop if they use a torque wrench on your lugs, I'll bet you dollars to doughnuts its an air impact wrench...which is fine until a lug bolt snaps someday due to the fatigue of them torquing your lugs to 200-300 ft*lbs every time they do a free rotation for you.
My lugs get torqued to an exact 95 ft*lbs.
I will agree that there are some models the local guys can't match - but this is of no concern to me. There's no point in me puting $400/ea tires on my f150. Its a work truck and gets tire that last the longest.
To answer your question - I do not buy performance tires for my truck or the wifes car. I am not stuck on any brand of tire - just refuse to run Uniroyal. That is the only brand that I will not use. I really hate those freakin tires. I have had really good luck with Kelly and Coopers for my truck, so continue to run them. At least until i find a reason not too.
And I also do most of my own work - even rebuilt an engine or 2 in my garage. Tires - why bother taking rims to the shop to get tires mounted, then bring them home just to put on the lugs? just not worth the time in my book.
Wife got Goodyears this time. Had them on her last car and liked them, so we will see.