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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 09:07 PM
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If i had known then what i know now there would not be riding a Harley. Spent thousands getting the thing right .From the wobble in the long sweeping turns to the sorry cam chain tensioners . To the main breaker that left me stranded.I would like to see some of the engineers that designed my 03 RoadKing so i could have a good laugh . I am in to deep to sell and get something else . sorry for the rant. Also this is my 8th Harley.i have been riding for 60 years
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 09:15 PM
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No wonder folks sue them from time to time..
Pizz poor customer service makes for mad customers.. IMO..
 
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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 10:36 PM
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Botlefedponey - Where does your perception of HD come from? Have you been sniffing to much paint fumes?

Your assessment of the typical HD buyer and the Companies objectives are wholly with out foundation, facts and totally lacking merit.
 

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Old Oct 3, 2011 | 11:58 PM
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This is why I will never buy another new Harley. I have bought 6 new ones;never had a problem with any of them, but I've read & heard so many horror stories, I will only buy lo-mile used. Figure the $$ I save buying used will be offset if I have to spend anything on repairs.

BTW can someone explain the term "Scissored crank"? What causes it?
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:29 AM
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under warranty??? if it is ride the ever loving freaking snot out of it, hope it blows and they have to put new motor in it on their dime.

OR, bite the bullet and trade it in and move on.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by lh4x4
Botlefedponey - Where does your perception of HD come from? Have you been sniffing to much paint fumes?

Your assessment of the typical HD buyer and the Companies objectives are wholly with out foundation, facts and totally lacking merit.
Yes that’s it….sniffing paint fumes. It comes from the fact that I have been dealing with this since 4/10/2010 and they refuse to deal with the fact there is a problem, it comes from the fact that the bike has been in the dealer 15 times, from the rear caliper getting stuck, the inner primary bearing race splitting in 3 pieces and leaving me on the side of the road in Southern Indiana for 4 hours until I could get a trailer, it comes from, listing to the dealers tell me the bike is fine, it comes from Harley selling a 2012 Roadglide Ultra to one of my guys and him telling them it has too loud of a top end and 3 dealers telling him it is “Normal”. Guess what???? They built the freaking bike without head gaskets! It now has a brand new motor in it after 300 miles!

It comes from the fact that not one person in Harley can get off their *** and return a customer phone call. Is that a company trait that is driven by customer satisfaction or money? It comes from the fact that how many Harley shops do you see that has NO bikes and just shirts? Do you see GM,Ford,Dodge, with dealers to sell shirts? How about Suzuki,Honda,Yamaha? Do they have entire markets dedicated to just selling their brand?

Yes there MAY be some speculation on my part about Harleys company objectives but anyone that does not have their head up their *** or maybe Has been sniffing paint fumes can see that Harley puts their BRAND first and everything else comes after that.

If they did not focus so much on their branding they would no way be able to get away with such **** poor customer service. It’s a fantastic marketing strategy I will give them that, sad thing is if they focused on delivering a quality bike to go along with their BRAND they have created they could and would have the world by the *****!
 

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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 08:32 AM
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Their email format appears to be firstname.lastname@harley-davidson.com. Look up the execs names and start firing away. I keep trying until I get a hit. While you are not likely to get a response from them, you are shooting to get into their exec complaints process that is probably behind the scenes.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2011 | 01:43 PM
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As I stated earlier; the first step is to send an actual letter as email and phone calls are often ignored and I'm not sure that they count when trying to document an issue. Once you've done that I would start with your state DMV and/or your state Attorney General office and see where your next letter should go. Clearly calling the "customer no-service" desk is not going to solve your problem.

Another option is to ask your dealer to have a factory rep take a look at the bike; if your current dealer is unwilling go to another dealer.
 
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I have had two problems with two different bikes. Never had a problem with cust service and they did call me back. I didn't win either.... even when I wrote the President of the company Matt Levatich and I sent some bad bearings back.
 
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I have had two problems with two different bikes. Never had a problem with cust service and they did call me back. I didn't win either.... even when I wrote the President of the company Matt Levatich and I sent some bad bearings back.
At this point it is not even about getting the bike fixed, it is about Harley Davidson stepping up and calling me back. I have already decided I am going to do a build over the winter which no doubt will eliminate my problem. A large cooperation that prides itself on being “American made” should give the customers the common decency to at least man up and call them back.

Toyota had one of the largest recalls ever in the last few years; they didn’t hide behind customer service 800 numbers. Hell they even had TV advertisements about it. It’s pretty damn sad that a US company won’t even return your phone calls!

And what is even worse is I did manage to get through to a person in the corporate office that talked to me very briefly about the issues on my bike today through an industry contact. The only reason they talked to me was as a favor to my friend. He basically said good luck. His suggestion was recommending me to a dealer that would get me a good price on a new bike and let the problem go down the road.
 
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