OK. Stupid question from a newer member, but after exhaustive thread searching, gotta ask;

References to carrying a laptop for the Mastertuner. This is for the occasions where you are monitoring real time data during a ride, yes?
Can't imagine the alternative.

Same question with the Power Vision. Fine that you can mount on you handlebars, etc if desired, but can flash your drive & disconnect pending further need, yes?

Thanks guys.

 

For the TTS, no. You gather information during the ride and look at it later. Make sure the laptop's hibernation mode is off, go for a ride with the laptop tied down or in a padded area of the saddlebag.

 

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First, it's not a stupid question, as tuner-related topics can get confusing. I haven't used TTS, but my understanding is that to datalog you must carry a laptop during the ride to gather the data, then process it later. The PV is basically the same process except you don't need a computer tethered to the bike. It is replaced by the included display module that you can attach to the handlebars if desired or just place it somewhere (pocket, saddlebag, etc.) while tethered. An additional benefit to PV is that you can also use the module to monitor data while riding if you're into real-time information. You can also store up to six tunes and flash them to the ECM at any time (as long as the bike isn't running). The PV doesn't need to be attached to run the bike, as it is needed only to flash the ECM, store tunes, and compile datalogs.

I have PV and I leave it attached to the bike at all times. I have it monitoring Lambda 1 and 2, head temperature, throttle position, average and instant gas mileage, gas used (gal.) since last reset, and distance traveled. You can reset the mileage-distance-gal. parameters at any time, as well as calibrate their accuracy. There are many more parameters provided by both the ECM and/or the PV that you can choose. When I want to datalog I just enable datalogging and ride, then when finished I connect a netbook computer via USB and download the Excel files created by the PV. I can then read them as a spreadsheet in Excel and/or process with PV Tune and create a new tune for the bike based on the user-provided AFR parameters. With AT-100 the WB O2 sensors you can read the entire operating range and tune the bike in this manner, as well as tune spark advance using the bike's on-board knock retard tables.

Hope this helps.

 

I have the TTS System. The key to the Lap Top you use, is in using one that does not have any moving parts. In other words no hard drive. This is because it is the Hard Drive that the vibration and shocks of traveling down the road will mess with. Most of the inexpensive netbooks fill this task quite nicely. I am actually making this post on the one I use. It's an ACER Aspire One with an Intel Atom Processor, 66 GHz 512 K Cashe, 1 GB RAM and 160 GB of Flash Memory that the manufacturer calls a "Hard Drive" but it isn't a Hard Drive in the traditional sense of the word. You will need a USB CD/DVD Drive to load the TTS Program. On my machine I am running full Windows with MS Office as well as quite a number of other applications including the TTS Software. Since this Lap Top is over a year and a half old the current netbooks are probably both faster and cheaper. Since I travel a bit on business I also carry it with me and use it for all my personal stuff and I use it for feeding online music (like Pandora) to my stereo system at home.

 

I use a net book as well....next time I use it I will carry in a backpack . I don't like closing the lid of the saddlebag on the wires

 

With the TTS, the laptop can be used for real time monitoring by a passenger. Many people have also rigged 7" tablets for the same thing. All tuning can be done on the side of the road or in a parking lot, it takes a matter of minutes to make changes and reflash the ECM.

Get a netbook with a solid state hard drive from Ebay for around $100 and you're good to go.

 

Thanks guys. This is what prompted me to participate on the HD Forum - all the good advice from the grass roots crowd. All of the input on this thread makes perfect sense. I figured that carrying the base computer was not mandatory. Also, the tablets are an idea that I had not considered - interesting. Have not made a decision for TTS or PV yet. Still fishing. Will be in place by March, 2012.

 

Can a macbook be used with the Power Vision so long as you have excel?