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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 09:20 PM
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Hey All, Recently installed a new PCV w/map into my bro's 09 Glide. Had him test ride it (FWY entrance ramp) and he couldn't get the smile off his mug. He rides 35 miles home, parks, comes out later to show off, and the bike won't start! Sputters, backfires, no start. He disconnects the PCV and it starts right up.

Tech Support says it's the manner in which the bike is started.

1. Turn on ignition
2. Run switch to run
3. Immedieatly start the bike, do not wait for the fuel pump to cycle.

Haven't tried this yet,the explanation, if I remember correctly had to do with the PCV being powered on the fuel pump circut.

I have a PCIII on my 02 Glide, and it starts and runs normally. Is this for real?
If I have to stand on 1 foot and rub my belly next, I'll go with the overpriced HD Tuner.

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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 09:59 PM
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Yes this is how you start the bike with the PCV. It will start much better this way.
Something about the PCV hasn't interrupted the ECM signals yet and allows a easier start.

Now mine, and not sure if it's any1 else has issues like this if it don't fire up right a way ( like it normally does) ya better grab some throttle and then it will take right off. Mines like this when quick restarts say at the gas station.
It's a 2 beer bike stop now during summer, but not because of the PCV

And no you dont have to stand on one leg, rub your belly and your head at the same time.
 

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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 10:14 PM
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running PCV and no issues with starting. used on 96" and then on upgraded 107". Starts every time.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 10:37 PM
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Damn, My buddie is a big Indian dude, wanted to see him on one foot ))

Wed is our first day off, will let ya know how it works out.

He's bummed, hit 115 and still had alot to twist with the PCV.

Ride in the summer, Polish and forums in the winter!
 
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 11:10 PM
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The bike should still start it just starts better with method mentioned above and that is the way to do it for sure. You need to check all the settings are correct throttle position etc, also make sure you have the correct firmware installed. Do yourself a favor and talk to Jamie or Keith at Fuelmoto they will get you trouble shot real quick.
 
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Old Nov 21, 2011 | 11:37 PM
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I have a 88 incher with a PCIII and my Limited with a PCV. Both bikes will start without issue anyway, anyhow, anytime.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 02:19 AM
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It's a power commander, get used to it. Sell it and get a TTS.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 03:48 AM
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I had the exact same problem. 5 calls to tech "support" and 1 remote connection came up with all kinds of things to try and 1 "I have no idea", even the, starting it wrong thing. Nothing helped. Did not buy from fuel moto so that was not an option. Considered it a very expensive lesson and went with SE and dyno. I like the idea of no extra parts under the seat and all is fine now.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 04:19 AM
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I wanted to add the Harley dyno guy said my TBW was bad (I never noticed and issues with it) and he replaced it under warranty. Said it could have been causing the starting problem with the PCV, I don't know for sure, never reconnected the PCV.
 
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Old Nov 22, 2011 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SICKBAGGER
The bike should still start it just starts better with method mentioned above and that is the way to do it for sure. You need to check all the settings are correct throttle position etc, also make sure you have the correct firmware installed. Do yourself a favor and talk to Jamie or Keith at Fuelmoto they will get you trouble shot real quick.
Exacatly... it should still start and run fine... I could see their point for a easier start but if its not running correctly something seems wrong. PCV on my 96" and I almost always wait for the fuel pump to stop running and I have not had any problems.
 
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