Cycle sounds lids
Big Kahuna HDF Member
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From: Calgary eh
The Yaffe lids are the Cycle Sounds lids. Build quality is very good. My painter had no problems with them. The bag latches fit fine although I put a little longer screw in the latches when I put it back together.
The sound quality is very good, but does start to fade away at about 50mph. If I lean back I can hear them. My passenger can hear them fine no matter the speed. She has told me to turn it down before at 70 mph.
My stereo consists of
Sony DSX-S100 head unit w/ Biketronics gear to retain hand controls
ARC Audio 125.2
Polk 5.25" in the fairing
ARC Audio 6x9" in the bag lids
Wired in parallel to power all 4 speakers from the 2 channel amp
Hard to appreciate sound on from Youtube, but here is a clip I took after I mocked everything up and before I put the Sony head unit in.
http://www.youtube.com/user/biggzed?.../9/yd9IUEqsnbA
Zach
The sound quality is very good, but does start to fade away at about 50mph. If I lean back I can hear them. My passenger can hear them fine no matter the speed. She has told me to turn it down before at 70 mph.
My stereo consists of
Sony DSX-S100 head unit w/ Biketronics gear to retain hand controls
ARC Audio 125.2
Polk 5.25" in the fairing
ARC Audio 6x9" in the bag lids
Wired in parallel to power all 4 speakers from the 2 channel amp
Hard to appreciate sound on from Youtube, but here is a clip I took after I mocked everything up and before I put the Sony head unit in.
http://www.youtube.com/user/biggzed?.../9/yd9IUEqsnbA
Zach
By the way, which model speakers do you have. There are so many. Also are they marine or outdoor speakers, or just car audio? Wondering how the handle the weather.
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From: Roswell, GA
I'm with you there. It also occupies my every evening.
From what I've seen/been thinking, the HD lids have to be of extreme quality. I mean after all, they made the original lids, and I trust that their lids will fit and seal well. The "Boom" speakers? I've heard them, and they sounded good, but I think some quality aftermarket speakers would probably sound better, and I know they would be cheaper.
Note: The speaker mounting holes in the HD lids are a non-standard pattern according to my friend who is installing JL component 5x7's in HD speaker lids. If you use aftermarket speakers, expect to do some drilling and perhaps some sealing work to install them in the HD lids--nothing radical, but don't expect a drop-in installation that you'd have using HD's 2 ohm saddlebag speaker kit.
Right now, I think I'm leaning towards HD lids, the $200 Rockford Fosgate 4 channel amp, and probably some Polk speakers from Crutchfield. 5x7's for the lids, and 6.5's for the front. (They're running a buy one, get one half off deal) Then I think I'll order the 5 1/4" to 6.5" conversion rings from Paul Yaffe.
There was a thread on here a week or two ago about doing something very similar to this. Also the part numbers were listed for the HD speaker grills to fit the lids, without having to buy their speakers.
Then I think I'll just need to figure out the wiring. The street glide's head unit will only push 2 channels, but the dealer can download new software to it, so it will push 4 channels instead. I don't know if there's any fee for this download, and when I spoke with my nearest dealer, they didn't know what I was talking about. Figures! They can do it though.
Note: The HK head unit has four "live" channels; the dealer dowload is to turn "on" the HK head unit fader control. The additional two channels are accessed via the 35 wire connector on the HK that is unused on the SG as delivered from the MOCO; they're easy to access, however.
Like you said though, once you think you have it all figured out, some other idea comes along and messes everything up again...
Good luck!
From what I've seen/been thinking, the HD lids have to be of extreme quality. I mean after all, they made the original lids, and I trust that their lids will fit and seal well. The "Boom" speakers? I've heard them, and they sounded good, but I think some quality aftermarket speakers would probably sound better, and I know they would be cheaper.
Note: The speaker mounting holes in the HD lids are a non-standard pattern according to my friend who is installing JL component 5x7's in HD speaker lids. If you use aftermarket speakers, expect to do some drilling and perhaps some sealing work to install them in the HD lids--nothing radical, but don't expect a drop-in installation that you'd have using HD's 2 ohm saddlebag speaker kit.
Right now, I think I'm leaning towards HD lids, the $200 Rockford Fosgate 4 channel amp, and probably some Polk speakers from Crutchfield. 5x7's for the lids, and 6.5's for the front. (They're running a buy one, get one half off deal) Then I think I'll order the 5 1/4" to 6.5" conversion rings from Paul Yaffe.
There was a thread on here a week or two ago about doing something very similar to this. Also the part numbers were listed for the HD speaker grills to fit the lids, without having to buy their speakers.
Then I think I'll just need to figure out the wiring. The street glide's head unit will only push 2 channels, but the dealer can download new software to it, so it will push 4 channels instead. I don't know if there's any fee for this download, and when I spoke with my nearest dealer, they didn't know what I was talking about. Figures! They can do it though.
Note: The HK head unit has four "live" channels; the dealer dowload is to turn "on" the HK head unit fader control. The additional two channels are accessed via the 35 wire connector on the HK that is unused on the SG as delivered from the MOCO; they're easy to access, however.
Like you said though, once you think you have it all figured out, some other idea comes along and messes everything up again...
Good luck!
I'll post some pics over the week-end.
Carl
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The 6x9's are ARC Audio KS6936
Neither are marine grade that I know of.
I'm actually considering swapping the ARC 6x9's for a matching pair of Polk DXi690's. Reason being is the speaker sensitivity is not well matched. The Polk's have a 93dB @ 1 watt rating while the ARC's are only 86dB @ 1 watt. I will definitely get more sound out of the Polk's than the ARC's if I make the swap. Don't think it's a power issue from the amp as I'm running it at 2 ohm, but we'll see.
Zach
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From: Minocqua, WI
The 5.25" fairing speakers are Polk Audio DXi525
The 6x9's are ARC Audio KS6936
Neither are marine grade that I know of.
I'm actually considering swapping the ARC 6x9's for a matching pair of Polk DXi690's. Reason being is the speaker sensitivity is not well matched. The Polk's have a 93dB @ 1 watt rating while the ARC's are only 86dB @ 1 watt. I will definitely get more sound out of the Polk's than the ARC's if I make the swap. Don't think it's a power issue from the amp as I'm running it at 2 ohm, but we'll see.
Zach
The 6x9's are ARC Audio KS6936
Neither are marine grade that I know of.
I'm actually considering swapping the ARC 6x9's for a matching pair of Polk DXi690's. Reason being is the speaker sensitivity is not well matched. The Polk's have a 93dB @ 1 watt rating while the ARC's are only 86dB @ 1 watt. I will definitely get more sound out of the Polk's than the ARC's if I make the swap. Don't think it's a power issue from the amp as I'm running it at 2 ohm, but we'll see.
Zach
Jeff
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Zach
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DR. VTWIN on this forum can set you up with the lids and the Rockford Fosgate PBR 300x4 for probably the cheapest. By a set of Polk Audio component 6.5" for the fairing. Check Ebay for pricing and go from there. Drill two holes, one to the upper left of the speedomter, and the other upper right of the tach. That's where the tweeters would go. Paint you inner fairing while you have it apart. Buy some adapter rings for the 6.5" to fit. DR. VTWIN could prolly guide you in the right direction there too. Buy a set of marine grade Polk Audio 6x9's for the lids. Check Ebay also and go from there. Wire it up and be done. 
4ohm speakers!
4ohm speakers!
Last edited by HTNHARD; Dec 7, 2011 at 05:01 PM.
Big Kahuna HDF Member
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From: Calgary eh
DR. VTWIN on this forum can set you up with the lids and the Rockford Fosgate PBR 300x4 for probably the cheapest. By a set of Polk Audio component 6.5" for the fairing. Check Ebay for pricing and go from there. Drill two holes, one to the upper left of the tach, and the other upper right of the speedo. That's where the tweeters would go. Paint you inner fairing while you have it apart. Buy some adapter rings for the 6.5" to fit. DR. VTWIN could prolly guide you in the right direction there too. Buy a set of marine grade Polk Audio 6x9's for the lids. Check Ebay also and go from there. Wire it up and be done.
4ohm speakers!
4ohm speakers!
Also, about those poke speakers... mounting on the road glide would I loose 2 guages?
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Zach
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From: Randolph, WI
Yep, my bad. Just looked at some photos of the Road Glide dash and there's no where to mount the tweeters. I wouldnt give up gauges either. Suprise they did that on the SE Street Glide.
Why don't you check out Yaffe's Road Glide on youtube... what they have is probably the best they offer for a Road Glide.
Why don't you check out Yaffe's Road Glide on youtube... what they have is probably the best they offer for a Road Glide.
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From: Port Neches Texas
Let me start by saying i dont know **** about audio. I know you get what you pay for. I just wired up my cycle sound lids, doing extended bags and fender, I have a a dragonfly fairing with the following.
Kenwood KIV700 HU
ARC ALD Line Driver
ARC 125.2 Amp
Hertz HCX 690 6x9's
I bought the cycle sound lids ,complete, at Lone Star Rally. I called ARC and asked if I should consider the 125.4 4 channel amp. He told me if fade was not an issue tie the right side speakers together and the left side speakers together. The system will be operating at 2 ohms at approx. 65 watts/channel so save the $500.00 you can always add later. I tied the speakers in temporarily and I can say I am extremely impressed. I have not adjusted the gains, the head unit now will max out with no distortion, so I have some more room on the amp. The Hertz speakers have never sounded this good. I hear the front Hertz speakers more standing over the saddlebags than I do the Polk 6x9s. I don't understand why the system woke up by putting more power consumption on it. If I was to do this again I would not purchase the complete lid package, the system comes with a line driver,small amp, and all wires an connectors that I will not be using. Hindsight I would have purchased the lids only and spent the $300.00 on a good set of speakers to put in the lids. The lids are very good quality and match up with the sinister bags nicely. As far as ground shaking, It will never sound like, the young kid next to you at the light with his hat turned backwards, slumped in the seat vibrating the windows while Snoop Dog is screaming his *** off trying to get above the subwoofer, thats not my goal. I can say my system was ok at 70-80 mph. This addition should make it really nice at 70 - 80 mph.
Good luck
Kenwood KIV700 HU
ARC ALD Line Driver
ARC 125.2 Amp
Hertz HCX 690 6x9's
I bought the cycle sound lids ,complete, at Lone Star Rally. I called ARC and asked if I should consider the 125.4 4 channel amp. He told me if fade was not an issue tie the right side speakers together and the left side speakers together. The system will be operating at 2 ohms at approx. 65 watts/channel so save the $500.00 you can always add later. I tied the speakers in temporarily and I can say I am extremely impressed. I have not adjusted the gains, the head unit now will max out with no distortion, so I have some more room on the amp. The Hertz speakers have never sounded this good. I hear the front Hertz speakers more standing over the saddlebags than I do the Polk 6x9s. I don't understand why the system woke up by putting more power consumption on it. If I was to do this again I would not purchase the complete lid package, the system comes with a line driver,small amp, and all wires an connectors that I will not be using. Hindsight I would have purchased the lids only and spent the $300.00 on a good set of speakers to put in the lids. The lids are very good quality and match up with the sinister bags nicely. As far as ground shaking, It will never sound like, the young kid next to you at the light with his hat turned backwards, slumped in the seat vibrating the windows while Snoop Dog is screaming his *** off trying to get above the subwoofer, thats not my goal. I can say my system was ok at 70-80 mph. This addition should make it really nice at 70 - 80 mph.
Good luck