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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 03:47 AM
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Would someone please explain to me "in layman's terms" what has been done to a 2006 Ultra with these $3K (total parts & labor) in engine mods??

Bored to 95"
Hi-comp pistons
PCIII
Adjustable pushrods
SE238 (maybe) cam [will verify]
SE air cleaner
Rinehard Tru-Dual exhaust

How "desirable" are these upgrades? Are these "usual" Ultra upgrades with no potential harm to the bike? Should they add $3K to the value of a bike when being resold? Should I look for a stock bike instead and mod myself differently? Any possiblility of voiding an extended warranty if all work performed at a Harley dealer? Anything else to consider?

Thanks in advance for your help!

RK
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 03:56 AM
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went down a simular path last year and yes it will most likely void the extended warranty, because of the High compression pistons and PCIII. High compression mods and 238 cam most likely will not produce power curve where most Ultra riders ride.

I would look for a bike with a 88 or 95 mod with a 26G andrews cam PCIII or SERT and true dual exhaust set up. I have been reading alot of threads and for the crusers this seem to be the hot set up.

 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 04:01 AM
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Wow, thanks for prompt reply... not sure if extended warranty was through HD, but if so - would warranty still be voided even though they (HD) did the work??
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 04:39 AM
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with my story Harley would not stand behind it, there is after market companiesbut they would not cover I purchased a 99 ultra from a harley dealer and they sold me a 2 extended warranty and when it came time to perform work under extended plan whoops not covered because of the mods. now some dealer sometimes stand will honor the work they did but rare. and if you need work it has to go back to them.

If the price is right it may good deal but dont waste any money on extended warranty. Not knowing what all the mods have been made I wont pay much for the 3k investment may be 25 cent to the dollar


 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 04:46 AM
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Would someone please explain to me "in layman's terms" what has been done to a 2006 Ultra with these $3K (total parts & labor) in engine mods??

Bored to 95"
Hi-comp pistons
PCIII
Adjustable pushrods
SE238 (maybe) cam [will verify]
SE air cleaner
Rinehard Tru-Dual exhaust

How "desirable" are these upgrades? Are these "usual" Ultra upgrades with no potential harm to the bike? Should they add $3K to the value of a bike when being resold? Should I look for a stock bike instead and mod myself differently? Any possiblility of voiding an extended warranty if all work performed at a Harley dealer? Anything else to consider?

Thanks in advance for your help!

RK
Bored to 95" means that the stock twin cam 88 engine (1450 cc) has been "enlarged" to 95 (1550 cc). Hi comp pistons mean they are high compression pistons (those things that go up and down inside the cylinders where the combustion takes place). PCIII is a Dynojet Power Commander III which is a fuel management system to "piggyback" the EFI (electronic fuel injection) system to change the air/fuel mixture to compensate for the upgrades. The SE (Screamin' Eagle) 238 is a cam which essentially has lobes that rise and fall in such a way that determines how long and when the intake and exhaust valves open and close thus increasing power. The SE (Screamin' Eagle) air cleaner is a high performance air cleaner to allow more air into the engine thus increasing power. The true dual exhaust is where the crossover pipe is eliminated thus reducing heat on the right side of the bike and doing away with the scavenging effect of the stock system. This can cause a slight loss in the low end, but I personally like the looks, sound, etc. Was that "layman" terms enough for ya? The upgrades are fairly desireable for most and do not cause harm if done properly. On resale most upgrades are taken at a loss, but some folks get the money for them. It is more fun to do your own upgrades.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 07:35 AM
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if youre asking these types of questions, its probly not the bike for you...buy a new one
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 08:36 AM
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Most people who upgrade also do a certain amount of gettting on it,if you know what I mean. I have bought 2 used bikes in my lifetime. One was awesome and one turned out to be junk. Buy new and you know that it's been taken care of.
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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RKHARLEY, I agree with Bryan, although you don't have to buy NEW. If your bank account makes you lean towards a used Bike, I would suggest one as close to stock as possible. Not only is most of the fun in doing your own upgrades, but by reading forums like this and talking with experienced riders you will find out what upgrades are right for the type of riding that you enjoy. Some Riders like big HP, some like big TQ, most like a combination that meets their needs for the type of riding where they spend most of their time. There are Riders that put on a lot of long distance highway miles, they will want a different combination of upgrades than someone who likes to Blast around for short distances. Pick your Bike carefully as far as family [ ie Sporster, Dyna, Road King etc. ] if you are in the market for a used Bike, there was some advice from a guy [I think BIG CHOLLA ] that would be very helpful. It was in a thread here within the last week. If you can buy new, you have a choice between an 06 [ probably could get some good deals ] or the new 07's that have a lot of changes from previous years. Choose your Bike, then take your time on decisions on upgrades, GOOD LUCK, THE DOG.
 
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I also agree with Bryan & DI75.

Those mods on a used bike do NOT warrant a $3k hike in price on a used bike. Chances are that the previous owner may have ridden the bike hard to "enjoy" those mods.

Sometimes, a dealership that installs that kinda stuff will stand behind it, but there's no way anyone will on a resale ~ espically down the road, or out on the road somewhere.

There are plenty of nice used bikes out there, but that one is probably not a good candidate if you're asking these questions. No disrespect intended.....
 
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 12:00 PM
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Thanks for the thorough explanations and advice.

I have 3 Harleys now (mostly stock) and working a deal to "upgrade". Normally I prefer stock bikes & cars (and I have owned many over the years) . If I go through with this deal I need to know what I'm paying for. The offered extra 4 years warranty sounds good, but not if it is voided. Thanks again. We'll see what happens.

Those upgrades sound pretty popular, here is another one with same upgrades:

https://www.hdforums.com/m_1013915/tm.htm

RK
 
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