Thinking about adding Smart Security System
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Thinking about adding Smart Security System
Ok, I did a search but didn't find much. I have a buddy that has this system on his Softail and he says that he doesn't have to turn the key since he has the FOB, he just leaves it on and it is safe. Obviously I don't have the utmost trust in his technical knowledge so I thought I would make sure. I have had trouble with my key a couple times and it would be nice to not have to dig it out of my pocket all the time. So is he right? What do you guys with security systems do?
Road Warrior
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You still have to turn the switch to the off position or you will kill the battery. Also the Harley smart security is a POS. I had it on a Softtail and had nothing but problems with it. I wouldn't take it on a new bike if it was free much less add it on.
Road Warrior
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From: Lorton, VA
I normally do not mess with the key at all, unless I'm leaving the bike overnight somewhere, then I lock the ignition just to feel better.
So yes, your buddy is right, with the alarm the bike will not start if the fob is not close to the bike. Just don't leave the fob close to the bike (saddle bag, etc).
I've never had any issues with the HD system, it has been reliable on my last two bikes.
So yes, your buddy is right, with the alarm the bike will not start if the fob is not close to the bike. Just don't leave the fob close to the bike (saddle bag, etc).
I've never had any issues with the HD system, it has been reliable on my last two bikes.
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From: Phoenix '53, '88, '09 Big Twins
security system works well.
( the best thing in the world are the guys who don't bother setting a PIN, leave home with out the keys and then realize that the 2 year old battery in the fob is dead)
the security system allows the owner to set a PIN number which is entered with the bar controls to start the bike should the fob be lost or fail
i still lock it when parked
mike
( the best thing in the world are the guys who don't bother setting a PIN, leave home with out the keys and then realize that the 2 year old battery in the fob is dead)
the security system allows the owner to set a PIN number which is entered with the bar controls to start the bike should the fob be lost or fail
i still lock it when parked
mike
First off, I think there is a mixing of terms here. Someone who is closer to HD markting/sales might correct me, but I believe the following is correct:
Now, to the OP questions:
I have or owned all 3 combinations
Yes. The factory security system on bikes (I think) 2007 and newer (no pushbutton, the RF kind) will prevent the bike from starting if the fob is not within like 5ft. of the bike. The Smart Security System adds the pager feature. The audible siren is an additional open if I remember correctly.
Keep the fob in my pocket. If I'm staying overnight at a motel or whatever, everything is locked including forks and ignition, fob in my pocket, park near the front office or right outside my window - never had a problem. I don't have the audible module or pager thing on either bike, but I have on past bikes. Nice, but not worth it in my opinion.
I have a buddy though, that has an '07 Heritage and he has the audible module and the pager fob. He really likes them.
To each his own, hope that helps.
- The HD Security System is what you pay $400 or whatever extra and is a factory installed option found on some new bikes. The old style had a push button to lock/unlock the ignition. The newer ones are RF. No buttons, get the fob close to the bike and it will start. I've heard it can be retrofitted out of the factory. The earlier style where you had to push the button to disable the ignition... well, you have to push a button.
- The HD Smart Security system is an after-purchase add-on, with a second fob that will page you if someone mucks with the bike. It has like a 1/4 mile range.
- There also is an audible alarm module for like $100 or something, that will squeal if the bike is moved/attempted start without the fob. There are writeups here on the board on how to do that for $15 with RadioShack parts.
Now, to the OP questions:
I have or owned all 3 combinations
So is he right?
What do you guys with security systems do?
I have a buddy though, that has an '07 Heritage and he has the audible module and the pager fob. He really likes them.
To each his own, hope that helps.
And yes, either style - pushbutton or no, can be manually overridden. Set that up early on so when/if something screws up, you know how to start the bike without the fob like.....
working on the bike in the garage, fob on the workbench..... all done, fire it up, go for a spin.... decide to stop for gas, kill the bike, fill.... then wonder why it doesn't start
or
drop the bike off at the dealer for warranty service. Get 10 miles down the road and your cell phone rings.... it's the service writer, can't start the bike without the fob
I would say, "don't ask me how I know" but that is obvious
working on the bike in the garage, fob on the workbench..... all done, fire it up, go for a spin.... decide to stop for gas, kill the bike, fill.... then wonder why it doesn't start
or
drop the bike off at the dealer for warranty service. Get 10 miles down the road and your cell phone rings.... it's the service writer, can't start the bike without the fob
I would say, "don't ask me how I know" but that is obvious
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Road Master
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My friend has this system. www.phantomtracking.com. Its a GPS locator and unlike lojack if the bike is stolen you dont have to contact the police. If you bike is moved you recieve a txt or email or a phone call. If you dont answer it goes into fail safe mode and contacts the police automatically. If the bike is stolen they contact the police. 2nd its an alarm system. 3rd its a cut of switch, the bikes electical system is shut down. And 4th, if you go down the system contacts EMS for you. I ordered my yesterday. To monitor its $14.99 a month. Still less expensive than lojack. Ive read of the new technology being used in these GPS systems. five years ago I wouldnt of ordered it because I read and heard it was not that reliable. And you can transfer it from bike to bike. From what I read phantom tracking for motorcycles is actually a sister company to phantom tracking that is used on those huge excavating machines, big rigs, trucks and machines used in the mining industry and other heavy machinery. Lets see hopefully I never have to use it
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First off, I think there is a mixing of terms here. Someone who is closer to HD markting/sales might correct me, but I believe the following is correct:
- The HD Security System is what you pay $400 or whatever extra and is a factory installed option found on some new bikes. The old style had a push button to lock/unlock the ignition. The newer ones are RF. No buttons, get the fob close to the bike and it will start. I've heard it can be retrofitted out of the factory. The earlier style where you had to push the button to disable the ignition... well, you have to push a button.
- The HD Smart Security system is an after-purchase add-on, with a second fob that will page you if someone mucks with the bike. It has like a 1/4 mile range.
- There also is an audible alarm module for like $100 or something, that will squeal if the bike is moved/attempted start without the fob. There are writeups here on the board on how to do that for $15 with RadioShack parts.
the pager is another after purchase addon for $79.95
the siren is an after purchase addon for $89.95 (or $6.00 from radio shack
)