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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 03:29 AM
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I have a question regarding the idle RPM for Harley. I am watching on Youtube different HD's and I noticed that many of them have a low RPM at idle. Mine is a RK 2002 FLHRI and it has a higher idle RPM. It is in normal range but it still rotates faster than other seen on net.
It is a matter of stage I or II or it's about mapping?

Here is a idle low RPM example!


...and this is what I hear on my bike!
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 03:40 AM
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It's a matter of manual adjustment. Your bike (and mine...2000,) are supposed to run b/w 950 and 1050 rpm. But some guys want their bikes to sound like "Harleys." and slow 'em down.

Not good for the lower end, particularly HD's cast crank 07 and later. (Your 2002 is somewhat more stout.)

I run mine at 1050 and have more than a few miles on the bike with the intent for more.

Do what you want.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 04:00 AM
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And this is done only by the idle screw or there are some other changes to be done prior? Like better crankshaft or stage I or II, new exhaust, re-mapping, etc.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 04:58 AM
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if you have efi and tuner you can set the rpm lower.

otherwise you set the idle speed on the carby via the idle screw.

either way this is a really dumb thing to do.

Firstly the oil flow at idle below 1000 is too low, cooling is compromised.

Secondly the twin cam uses plain cam bearings which require oil pressure for lubrication, low speed means low pressure and poor lubrication. Proceed at your own risk!

Sounds very cool tho.....
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by kingkingking
if you have efi and tuner you can set the rpm lower.

otherwise you set the idle speed on the carby via the idle screw.

either way this is a really dumb thing to do.

Firstly the oil flow at idle below 1000 is too low, cooling is compromised.

Secondly the twin cam uses plain cam bearings which require oil pressure for lubrication, low speed means low pressure and poor lubrication. Proceed at your own risk!

Sounds very cool tho.....
Fully agree, as much I'd love to here that "potato potato" I wouldn't risk low oil pressure when idling while the engine temperature is rising fast as there's no air flow there cooling it...
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 06:55 AM
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My carbed 99 FLHT idles at 1000rpm, when she warms up, right where I like it and it should be. Same as my old 90 FLST did.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by radudel
Hello everybody

I have a question regarding the idle RPM for Harley. I am watching on Youtube different HD's and I noticed that many of them have a low RPM at idle. Mine is a RK 2002 FLHRI and it has a higher idle RPM. It is in normal range but it still rotates faster than other seen on net.
It is a matter of stage I or II or it's about mapping?

Here is a idle low RPM example!


...and this is what I hear on my bike!
That Fatboy is idling so slow he's not even putting out enough juice to keep his headlight bright. Even if you dropped your idle that low you'll never really get the same sound out of your longshots as compared to those shorty pipes on the Fatboy.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:24 AM
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The idle on my 98 RKC was pretty low when I got it. I adjusted the hot and cold idle settings per the good book and it now runs much better. No more popping on decel and the motor doesn't try and shake itself to death at idle.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:42 AM
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The Fat Boy has a different cam also, which makes it sound rough.
I'd say his idle was ridiculously to low, sounds like it's around 500 rpm or lower. I'm not impressed.
 
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Old Jan 13, 2012 | 09:51 AM
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If you have to have / want the idle sound of the first bike, sell your twin cam and buy a shovel head. They could idle that slow, different crank, bearing system, oiling system. As others have stated, the fatboy in the first video is idling too slow to be any good for the engine.

Twin cams can idle wicked even at the correct idle speed (the SE 120R in my 06 dyna fits that description). Correct cam and tune will sound very good but will not usually deliver that old style potato potato idle.
 
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